Relocation with my minor child to Saudi Arabia, Mecca (Consent and Refusal) – Advocate Muhammad Abduroaf

The world is becoming a much smaller place, and technology plays a huge role. People are moving across the world for employment, love and happiness, something that was not the norm a few decades ago. There is no reason why you should remain in South Africa if you can find a better life for yourself and your family overseas. Moving overseas may provide you with the quality of life you want or the possibility of experiencing things you always wanted. The same applies to your child or children relocating with you.

Relocation of your minor child to Mecca, Saudi Arabia

If you are single and do not have any minor children, then moving around the world would not be too complicated. All you need to do is ensure that you have the necessary travel documentation and travel ticket (and spending money), and off you go. However, if you want to travel with your minor children (for example, ages three or four) or relocate to another country, things may not be that simple. Firstly, if there is another parent, and he or she has parental responsibilities and rights, then his or her consent is required. For example, let us say you live in Pretoria or Giyani, South Africa, and you want to relocate to Mecca, Saudi Arabia, you would require the other parent’s consent to leave South Africa with your minor child. This can cause challenges, especially if the staying parent (in South Africa) does not agree to the relocation.

What about Passport Consent to travel or relocate to Mecca, Saudi Arabia?

The same applies when it comes to your minor child applying for a South African passport to relocate to Saudi Arabia, or any country. Both parents who have parental responsibilities and rights of guardianship will have to consent to the minor child’s passport application as well. In this regard, both parents have to be at the Department of Home Affairs (or the relevant bank that also assists with passport application) when making the Application with the minor child. This can be challenging if you have a disinterested parent who does not want to cooperate with the passport application. As you will see later, legal action would need to be taken.

What are the steps to follow when I want to relocate to Mecca, Saudi Arabia with my minor child? There is  another parent.

To simplify the process for relocation, the first step would be to receive the other parent’s consent in principle for the relocation and that he or she will co-operate in this regard. Once that has been resolved, the parent relocating would need to make the appointment for the minor child’s passport application as well as the application for the relevant VISA. Each country has different requirements; however, seeing that it is a relocation, you need to apply for the correct VISA. For that, you need the Passport. Once the visa and travel arrangements have been finalised, the parent remaining behind will sign a parental consent letter for the international travel. That letter can be found on the Department of Home Affairs website. Basically, the parent remaining behind would state that he or she gives consent for the minor child to leave the Republic of South Africa and travel and/or relocate to Mecca, Saudi Arabia.

What can I do if the other parent does not want to consent to the minor child’s relocation to Mecca, Saudi Arabia?

If the parent remaining in South Africa does not want to consent to the minor child’s passport application and/or his or her relocation to Mecca, Saudi Arabia, then you would need to approach the Court. The Court, as upper guardian of the minor child, may order that the parent’s consent for the passport application and relocation be dispensed with. What this entails is submitting Court documents explaining why you want to relocate to Mecca, Saudi Arabia. The other parent would also have an opportunity to give reasons why he or she objects. At the end of the process, the Court would determine what is in the minor child’s best interests. If it is in the minor child’s best interests to relocate to Mecca, Saudi Arabia, the Court would make it possible despite the issue of consent or refusal.

What is the first step I should take if the other parent does not want to consent to the minor child’s passport application and/or relocation to Mecca, Saudi Arabia?

If the other parent does not want to consent to the passport application and/or the relocation of the minor child to Mecca, Saudi Arabia – in that case, we suggest you approach an attorney or advocate (trust account) to assist you with the legal process. He or she would then contact the other parent explaining the reasons for the relocation and request the necessary consent. If the parent remaining in South Africa does still not agree to the passport application and/or to the relocation to Mecca, Saudi Arabia, then the attorney or advocate will proceed to take the matter to court. The legal route can be expensive. However, it is necessary to make the relocation of the minor child possible. You may also attend to the legal process yourself.

Getting legal assistance or help with your relocation application to Mecca, Saudi Arabia

If you require legal assistance or representation with relocating to Mecca, Saudi Arabia due to the other parent not cooperating or providing consent, then feel free to contact us for assistance. The Firm Advocate, Muhammad Abduroaf, deals with these types of matters.

Relocation with my minor child to Saudi Arabia, Mecca (Consent and Refusal) – Advocate Muhammad Abduroaf

The world is becoming a much smaller place, and technology plays a huge role. People are moving across the world for employment, love and happiness, something that was not the norm a few decades ago. There is no reason why you should remain in South Africa if you can find a better life for yourself and your family overseas. Moving overseas may provide you with the quality of life you want or the possibility of experiencing things you always wanted. The same applies to your child or children relocating with you.

Relocation of your minor child to Mecca, Saudi Arabia

If you are single and do not have any minor children, then moving around the world would not be too complicated. All you need to do is ensure that you have the necessary travel documentation and travel ticket (and spending money), and off you go. However, if you want to travel with your minor children (for example, ages three or four) or relocate to another country, things may not be that simple. Firstly, if there is another parent, and he or she has parental responsibilities and rights, then his or her consent is required. For example, let us say you live in Pretoria or Giyani, South Africa, and you want to relocate to Mecca, Saudi Arabia, you would require the other parent’s consent to leave South Africa with your minor child. This can cause challenges, especially if the staying parent (in South Africa) does not agree to the relocation.

What about Passport Consent to travel or relocate to Mecca, Saudi Arabia?

The same applies when it comes to your minor child applying for a South African passport to relocate to Saudi Arabia, or any country. Both parents who have parental responsibilities and rights of guardianship will have to consent to the minor child’s passport application as well. In this regard, both parents have to be at the Department of Home Affairs (or the relevant bank that also assists with passport application) when making the Application with the minor child. This can be challenging if you have a disinterested parent who does not want to cooperate with the passport application. As you will see later, legal action would need to be taken.

What are the steps to follow when I want to relocate to Mecca, Saudi Arabia with my minor child? There is  another parent.

To simplify the process for relocation, the first step would be to receive the other parent’s consent in principle for the relocation and that he or she will co-operate in this regard. Once that has been resolved, the parent relocating would need to make the appointment for the minor child’s passport application as well as the application for the relevant VISA. Each country has different requirements; however, seeing that it is a relocation, you need to apply for the correct VISA. For that, you need the Passport.
Once the visa and travel arrangements have been finalised, the parent remaining behind will sign a parental consent letter for the international travel. That letter can be found on the Department of Home Affairs website. Basically, the parent remaining behind would state that he or she gives consent for the minor child to leave the Republic of South Africa and travel and/or relocate to Mecca, Saudi Arabia.

What can I do if the other parent does not want to consent to the minor child’s relocation to Mecca, Saudi Arabia?

If the parent remaining in South Africa does not want to consent to the minor child’s passport application and/or his or her relocation to Mecca, Saudi Arabia, then you would need to approach the Court. The Court, as upper guardian of the minor child, may order that the parent’s consent for the passport application and relocation be dispensed with. What this entails is submitting Court documents explaining why you want to relocate to Mecca, Saudi Arabia. The other parent would also have an opportunity to give reasons why he or she objects.
At the end of the process, the Court would determine what is in the minor child’s best interests. If it is in the minor child’s best interests to relocate to Mecca, Saudi Arabia, the Court would make it possible despite the issue of consent or refusal.

What is the first step I should take if the other parent does not want to consent to the minor child’s passport application and/or relocation to Mecca, Saudi Arabia?

If the other parent does not want to consent to the passport application and/or the relocation of the minor child to Mecca, Saudi Arabia – in that case, we suggest you approach an attorney or advocate (trust account) to assist you with the legal process. He or she would then contact the other parent explaining the reasons for the relocation and request the necessary consent. If the parent remaining in South Africa does still not agree to the passport application and/or to the relocation to Mecca, Saudi Arabia, then the attorney or advocate will proceed to take the matter to court. The legal route can be expensive. However, it is necessary to make the relocation of the minor child possible. You may also attend to the legal process yourself.

Getting legal assistance or help with your relocation application to Mecca, Saudi Arabia

If you require legal assistance or representation with relocating to Mecca, Saudi Arabia due to the other parent not cooperating or providing consent, then feel free to contact us for assistance. The Firm Advocate, Muhammad Abduroaf, deals with these types of matters.

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Family Law matter and legal representation by attorneys or advocates. What are common questions asked?

What follows are some  frequently asked questions regarding legal representation and family law matters.

What is the right of mothers in South Africa?

In South Africa, mothers have several important rights concerning their children, particularly in matters of custody, care, and parental responsibilities. Here are some key rights:
  1. Parental Rights: Mothers have the right to make decisions about their child’s upbringing, including education, healthcare, and religion, especially if they are the primary caregiver or have sole custody.
  2. Custody and Access: Mothers can apply for custody of their children, and the courts prioritize the best interests of the child when determining custody arrangements. They also have the right to seek visitation rights if the father has custody.
  3. Child Maintenance: Mothers have the right to claim child maintenance from the father to ensure that the child’s financial needs are met.
  4. Legal Representation: Mothers have the right to seek legal advice and representation in family law matters, including custody disputes and maintenance claims.
  5. Protection Against Unreasonable Actions: Mothers can seek legal recourse if the father is acting unreasonably regarding custody, access, or maintenance obligations.
  6. Participation in Major Decisions: Mothers should be involved in significant decisions affecting their child’s life, such as schooling and medical treatment.
  7. Maternity Leave and Benefits: South African labour laws protect mothers’ rights to maternity leave and benefits in the workplace.
  8. Access to Social Services: Mothers can access social services and support systems to help with parenting, health care, and financial assistance if needed.
It’s essential for mothers to be aware of their rights and seek legal advice if they encounter challenges in exercising them.

Can a mother keep the child away from the father in South Africa?

In South Africa, a mother cannot unilaterally keep a child away from the father without a valid legal reason. Here are some important points to consider:
  1. Legal Custody: If the father has legal custody or parental rights, the mother must adhere to any court orders regarding access and custody. Ignoring these can lead to legal consequences.
  2. Best Interests of the Child: South African law prioritises the best interests of the child. Keeping a child away from a parent without a justifiable reason (e.g., concerns about safety or well-being) is generally not in the child’s best interest.
  3. Valid Reasons: If there are legitimate concerns—such as abuse, neglect, or substance abuse—these should be documented and, if necessary, reported to the authorities or brought before the court.
  4. Court Orders: If there are disputes regarding custody or access, it’s advisable to seek a court order to formally address these issues rather than taking unilateral action.
  5. Mediation: Engaging in mediation can help resolve conflicts between parents regarding custody and access in a way that considers the child’s best interests.

Who has more rights over a child in South Africa, a father or mother?

In South Africa, both parents generally have equal rights over a child, as the law emphasizes the best interests of the child. However, specific rights can depend on factors like custody arrangements and parental responsibilities:
  1. Equal Rights: Both parents have equal rights in making decisions about the child’s upbringing, education, and healthcare, unless a court order states otherwise.
  2. Custody Arrangements: If there is a custody agreement or court order in place, the terms of that order will determine the rights of each parent. For example, if one parent has sole custody, that parent may have more decision-making power.
  3. Parental Responsibilities: The Children’s Act outlines parental responsibilities and rights, which include the right to care for the child, maintain contact, and contribute to the child’s upbringing. Both parents typically share these responsibilities.
  4. Best Interests of the Child: Courts prioritize the child’s best interests when determining custody and access, which can sometimes lead to one parent being granted more rights in certain situations.
Overall, while mothers and fathers have equal rights, individual circumstances and legal agreements can influence specific rights and responsibilities. Legal advice is recommended for parents navigating custody and access issues.

Who qualifies for legal aid in South Africa and how can one apply for it?

In South Africa, legal aid is available to individuals who cannot afford legal representation. Here’s a breakdown of who qualifies and how to apply: Qualifications for Legal Aid
  1. Financial Means Test: Legal aid is primarily aimed at those with limited financial resources. Applicants must meet specific income and asset thresholds, which are reviewed periodically.
  2. Type of Case: Legal aid typically covers civil, criminal, and family law matters, including:
    • Criminal cases where imprisonment may be a consequence.
    • Family law matters, such as divorce, custody, and maintenance.
    • Certain civil cases, such as disputes involving social grants or housing.
  3. Merit of the Case: The case must have a reasonable chance of success. Legal aid is not provided for cases deemed frivolous or without merit.
How to Apply for Legal Aid
  1. Visit a Legal Aid Office: Applicants can visit a local Legal Aid South Africa office. These offices are located throughout the country.
  2. Complete the Application Form: At the office, you’ll need to fill out an application form. Staff will assist you in understanding the process and requirements.
  3. Provide Documentation: You may need to present supporting documents, such as:
    • Proof of income (payslips, bank statements).
    • Details about your assets.
    • Information about the legal issue you are facing.
  4. Assessment: Once your application is submitted, it will be assessed for eligibility based on financial means and the merits of the case.
  5. Await Decision: You will be informed about the outcome of your application. If approved, you will be assigned a legal representative.
How does pro bono work in South Africa? Pro bono legal services in South Africa refer to legal work undertaken voluntarily and without charge, aimed at assisting individuals or communities who cannot afford legal representation. Here’s how pro bono work functions in South Africa: Key Aspects of Pro Bono Work
  1. Purpose: Pro bono services are intended to promote access to justice, particularly for marginalized or disadvantaged individuals who may be unable to afford legal fees.
  2. Eligibility: There are typically no strict eligibility criteria for receiving pro bono services, but organizations may prioritize cases based on need, urgency, and the potential impact of the legal issue.
  3. Types of Cases: Pro bono work often covers a range of legal matters, including:
    • Family law (e.g., custody, divorce)
    • Criminal defense
    • Land rights and housing issues
    • Employment law
    • Public interest litigation
How Pro Bono Work is Organized
  1. Law Firms and NGOs: Many law firms, both large and small, have pro bono departments or initiatives. Non-governmental organizations (NGOs) also provide pro bono legal services, often focusing on specific areas of law.
  2. Legal Aid Clinics: Some universities and legal organizations operate legal aid clinics staffed by law students under the supervision of qualified attorneys, offering free legal advice and representation.
  3. Referral Systems: Legal practitioners may refer clients to pro bono services if they identify that the client cannot afford legal representation.
How to Access Pro Bono Services
  1. Contact Law Firms or NGOs: Individuals seeking pro bono assistance can reach out to local law firms or NGOs that offer these services. Many firms have specific programs dedicated to pro bono work.
  2. Legal Aid South Africa: While this is a separate entity, it’s important to note that Legal Aid South Africa provides legal services to those who qualify based on financial means, and they may refer clients to pro bono resources.
  3. Community Legal Clinics: Some communities have legal clinics that provide free advice and assistance. These clinics often focus on specific legal issues and can be a valuable resource.
Benefits of Pro Bono Work
  • Access to Justice: Pro bono work helps bridge the gap for individuals who might otherwise be unable to afford legal help.
  • Public Interest: It allows lawyers to engage in matters that benefit society as a whole, addressing systemic issues.
  • Professional Development: For young lawyers and law students, pro bono work provides valuable experience and the opportunity to develop their skills while making a difference.
Overall, pro bono legal services play a crucial role in promoting equality and justice in South Africa.

What is the difference between an advocate and an attorney?

In South Africa, the terms “advocate” and “attorney” refer to different roles within the legal profession. Here are the key differences: Advocate
  1. Role: Advocates primarily represent clients in court and are specialised in litigation. They provide expert legal opinions and arguments during trials.
  2. Direct Access: Generally, advocates are instructed by attorneys. However, in some cases, clients can approach an advocate directly (known as “direct access”).
  3. Chambers: Advocates typically work independently from their own chambers or practice, rather than as part of a law firm.
Attorney
  1. Role: Attorneys handle a wide range of legal matters, including providing legal advice, preparing documents, and managing client relationships. They often deal with clients directly.
  2. Court Representation: While attorneys can represent clients in lower courts, they may instruct an advocate for higher courts or more complex litigation matters.
  3. Law Firms: Attorneys typically work in law firms or practice independently. They may specialize in various areas of law, such as family law, criminal law, or commercial law.
  4. Regulation: Attorneys are regulated by the Law Society of South Africa and must complete practical legal training and pass exams to practice.
Summary In essence, attorneys are the first point of contact for clients and handle a broad range of legal work, while advocates specialize in courtroom representation and litigation. The two roles complement each other within the legal system.

Can a client pay an advocate directly?

In South Africa, it is generally not standard practice for clients to pay advocates directly. Advocates are typically retained by attorneys, who then handle the payment arrangements. Here are some key points regarding this process:
  1. Attorney-Advocate Relationship: Clients usually hire an attorney, who will then brief an advocate for specific legal representation. The attorney is responsible for paying the advocate’s fees.
  2. Direct Payments: While it’s possible for a client to pay an advocate directly in certain circumstances, this is less common and may require prior agreement. If an advocate is briefed directly (as in some cases of direct access), they may accept payment from the client.
  3. Fee Agreements: If a client and an advocate agree on direct payment, it’s essential to have a clear fee agreement in writing, outlining the services provided and the payment structure.
  4. Cost Orders: In court cases, if a client wins, the court may order the losing party to pay the legal costs, which could include the advocate’s fees, but these costs typically flow through the attorney.
It’s advisable for clients to clarify payment arrangements with their attorney or advocate upfront to avoid misunderstandings.

Child Maintenance Court – What do you have to know to win. Tips and Tricks

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Best interests of a child: When it comes to child maintenance, the child’s best interests are of paramount importance. This principle is immortalised in our Constitution and applied in our Courts of Law. Therefore, in relation to child maintenance matters, and specifically to the child maintenance court, the moment a parent files an application for child maintenance, the principal should apply. Before we move on, on a side note, it is not only child maintenance that the maintenance court deals with. A spouse may take the other to the maintenance court for personal maintenance. Read on above a Successful Child Maintenance Appeal before the Full Bench Argued by Adv M Abduroaf

Parental Maintenance Obligations

Both parents have a duty of support towards their minor child’s proper living and upbringing. This should be according to their means, standard of living, station in life, and the needs of the child. This is found in our common law and further applies to divorced parents. According to section 15(2) of the Maintenance Act, the duty “extends to such support as a child reasonably requires for his or her proper living and upbringing, and includes the provision of food, clothing, accommodation, medical care and education.” Furthermore, the duty is not discharged where one parent earns substantially more than the other. According to section 15(3) of the Maintenance Act, in determining the maintenance amount, the maintenance court must take into consideration the following: “(i) that the duty of supporting a child is an obligation which the parents have incurred jointly; (ii) that the parents’ respective shares of such obligation are apportioned between them according to their respective means; and (iii) that the duty exists, irrespective of whether a child is born in or out of wedlock or is born of a first or subsequent marriage. (b) Any amount so determined shall be such amount as the maintenance court may consider fair in all the circumstances of the case.” Lastly, there is an onus on both the maintenance officer and the maintenance magistrate in placing evidence before the court in determining a fair maintenance amount. This is our starting point going forward.

Processing the Maintenance Application

When a parent approaches the maintenance court for child maintenance, it is the duty of the maintenance clerk to expeditiously process the application. In doing so, the clerk through the other resources of the maintenance court, should ascertain the details of the other parent, and ensure that he or she is brought to court as soon as possible for a maintenance enquiry before a maintenance officer. Therefore, for example, should the maintenance clerk not have the living or work address of the father, then he or she must enlist the assistance of the maintenance investigator to obtain it. For that, he or she can make use of the search and tracking resources the maintenance investigator makes use of and has access to.  

Getting the non-paying parent to the maintenance court

After the maintenance application has been processed, it is the duty of the maintenance court to ensure that the non-paying parent makes his or her way to the maintenance court as soon as possible for a maintenance enquiry. This enquiry is held before a maintenance officer. Even if the maintenance court’s diary is quite full, it should still expedite this process, giving both parents adequate time to make arrangements to appear in the maintenance court. Therefore, if the next available date for a maintenance enquiry is in three (3) months time, the parties can use this time to make arrangements with their work, obtain necessary information for the enquiry, or make alternative school traveling arrangements for the kids. There should therefore not be a delay in notifying the parents of the date of the maintenance enquiry. Furthermore, when notified of the court date, both parents receive a document stating what information they should bring with to the maintenance enquiry. These include three (3) months bank statements, and salary advices as well as proof of expenses. Giving the parties adequate time to obtain this information would be vital and, in the child’s best interests. The last thing we want is for the matter to be postponed to another date due to either parent not having been given adequate time to obtain the documents, even though the mother made the application many months ago.  

The maintenance enquiry before a maintenance officer

The maintenance enquiry is the next legal step in the process. This is where things get interesting. Sometimes, at this enquiry, it is the first time the parents are in the same room together, since the child was conceived. Quite often, both parents do not know much about the current financial affairs of the other parent. The parent asked to pay child support, furthermore, does not know what the child costs to maintain.

Denial of paternity

What sometimes happens, is that the father denies paternity. This he would either do out of spite or due to genuine doubt on his side. This would often be the case if there was a brief encounter between the parents when the child was conceived. Sometimes the father is married to someone else, and for the sake of his current marriage, he needs to deny paternity. Once the paternity tests are finalised, the parties would need to return to court again for the results. If the results are positive, in that he is the father, then the enquiry proceeds. If he is not the biological father, the application is removed from the court roll.

Role of the maintenance officer

Again, the golden standard in which the enquiry should be conducted is that of the child’s best interests. This is of paramount importance. The maintenance officer should, therefore, ensure that all the financial information about the parties are properly disclosed. This is very important. However, at the same time, the maintenance officer should try to settle the matter, taking into consideration the child’s best interests. Should the parents not be forthcoming regarding their income and expenses, and the needs of the child, then the maintenance officer must subpoena witnesses if need be and make use of the maintenance investigator which we deal with next.  

The maintenance investigator

Section 7(1)(d) of the Maintenance Act empowers the maintenance officer to “require a maintenance investigator of the maintenance court concerned to perform such other functions as may be necessary or expedient to achieve the objects of this Act.” Section 7(2)(e) of the Maintenance Act empowers the maintenance investigator after so being instructed by the maintenance officer, to: “gather information concerning- (i) the identification or whereabouts of any person who is legally liable to maintain the person mentioned in such complaint or who is allegedly so liable; (ii) the financial position of any person affected by such liability; or (iii) any other matter which may be relevant concerning the subject of such complaint; or (f) gather such information as may be relevant concerning a request referred to in subsection (1) (c). Now that we looked at the importance of the role of the maintenance officer and maintenance investigator, we move on to the role of the maintenance magistrate. This is where the formal enquiry takes place.

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The formal enquiry before a Magistrate

Should the parties not be able to come to an agreement regarding the amount of child maintenance to be paid at the enquiry before the maintenance officer; the matter would have to go before the maintenance magistrate for a formal enquiry. Here the court has to properly consider the means and needs of the mother, the means and needs of the father, and the needs of the minor child. Thereafter, make a maintenance award. There is a legal obligation upon the maintenance officer and the magistrate to conduct a thorough enquiry. The court should not play the role of an umpire. Therefore, a passive attitude should not be taken by a judicial officer in a maintenance enquiry and then give judgment. Should all go well, at the end of the enquiry, a maintenance award would be made.

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