Relocation with my minor child to Netherlands, Amsterdam (Consent and Refusal) – Advocate Muhammad Abduroaf

The world is becoming a much smaller place, and technology plays a huge role. People are moving across the world for employment, love and happiness, something that was not the norm a few decades ago. There is no reason why you should remain in South Africa if you can find a better life for yourself and your family overseas. Moving overseas may provide you with the quality of life you want or the possibility of experiencing things you always wanted. The same applies to your child or children relocating with you.

Relocation of your minor child to Amsterdam, Netherlands

If you are single and do not have any minor children, then moving around the world would not be too complicated. All you need to do is ensure that you have the necessary travel documentation and travel ticket (and spending money), and off you go. However, if you want to travel with your minor children (for example, ages three or four) or relocate to another country, things may not be that simple. Firstly, if there is another parent, and he or she has parental responsibilities and rights, then his or her consent is required. For example, let us say you live in Springs or Seshego, South Africa, and you want to relocate to Amsterdam, Netherlands, you would require the other parent’s consent to leave South Africa with your minor child. This can cause challenges, especially if the staying parent (in South Africa) does not agree to the relocation.

What about Passport Consent to travel or relocate to Amsterdam, Netherlands?

The same applies when it comes to your minor child applying for a South African passport to relocate to Netherlands, or any country. Both parents who have parental responsibilities and rights of guardianship will have to consent to the minor child’s passport application as well. In this regard, both parents have to be at the Department of Home Affairs (or the relevant bank that also assists with passport application) when making the Application with the minor child. This can be challenging if you have a disinterested parent who does not want to cooperate with the passport application. As you will see later, legal action would need to be taken.

What are the steps to follow when I want to relocate to Amsterdam, Netherlands with my minor child? There is  another parent.

To simplify the process for relocation, the first step would be to receive the other parent’s consent in principle for the relocation and that he or she will co-operate in this regard. Once that has been resolved, the parent relocating would need to make the appointment for the minor child’s passport application as well as the application for the relevant VISA. Each country has different requirements; however, seeing that it is a relocation, you need to apply for the correct VISA. For that, you need the Passport. Once the visa and travel arrangements have been finalised, the parent remaining behind will sign a parental consent letter for the international travel. That letter can be found on the Department of Home Affairs website. Basically, the parent remaining behind would state that he or she gives consent for the minor child to leave the Republic of South Africa and travel and/or relocate to Amsterdam, Netherlands.

What can I do if the other parent does not want to consent to the minor child’s relocation to Amsterdam, Netherlands?

If the parent remaining in South Africa does not want to consent to the minor child’s passport application and/or his or her relocation to Amsterdam, Netherlands, then you would need to approach the Court. The Court, as upper guardian of the minor child, may order that the parent’s consent for the passport application and relocation be dispensed with. What this entails is submitting Court documents explaining why you want to relocate to Amsterdam, Netherlands. The other parent would also have an opportunity to give reasons why he or she objects. At the end of the process, the Court would determine what is in the minor child’s best interests. If it is in the minor child’s best interests to relocate to Amsterdam, Netherlands, the Court would make it possible despite the issue of consent or refusal.

What is the first step I should take if the other parent does not want to consent to the minor child’s passport application and/or relocation to Amsterdam, Netherlands?

If the other parent does not want to consent to the passport application and/or the relocation of the minor child to Amsterdam, Netherlands – in that case, we suggest you approach an attorney or advocate (trust account) to assist you with the legal process. He or she would then contact the other parent explaining the reasons for the relocation and request the necessary consent. If the parent remaining in South Africa does still not agree to the passport application and/or to the relocation to Amsterdam, Netherlands, then the attorney or advocate will proceed to take the matter to court. The legal route can be expensive. However, it is necessary to make the relocation of the minor child possible. You may also attend to the legal process yourself.

Getting legal assistance or help with your relocation application to Amsterdam, Netherlands

If you require legal assistance or representation with relocating to Amsterdam, Netherlands due to the other parent not cooperating or providing consent, then feel free to contact us for assistance. The Firm Advocate, Muhammad Abduroaf, deals with these types of matters.

Relocation with my minor child to Netherlands, Amsterdam (Consent and Refusal) – Advocate Muhammad Abduroaf

The world is becoming a much smaller place, and technology plays a huge role. People are moving across the world for employment, love and happiness, something that was not the norm a few decades ago. There is no reason why you should remain in South Africa if you can find a better life for yourself and your family overseas. Moving overseas may provide you with the quality of life you want or the possibility of experiencing things you always wanted. The same applies to your child or children relocating with you.

Relocation of your minor child to Amsterdam, Netherlands

If you are single and do not have any minor children, then moving around the world would not be too complicated. All you need to do is ensure that you have the necessary travel documentation and travel ticket (and spending money), and off you go. However, if you want to travel with your minor children (for example, ages three or four) or relocate to another country, things may not be that simple. Firstly, if there is another parent, and he or she has parental responsibilities and rights, then his or her consent is required. For example, let us say you live in Springs or Seshego, South Africa, and you want to relocate to Amsterdam, Netherlands, you would require the other parent’s consent to leave South Africa with your minor child. This can cause challenges, especially if the staying parent (in South Africa) does not agree to the relocation.

What about Passport Consent to travel or relocate to Amsterdam, Netherlands?

The same applies when it comes to your minor child applying for a South African passport to relocate to Netherlands, or any country. Both parents who have parental responsibilities and rights of guardianship will have to consent to the minor child’s passport application as well. In this regard, both parents have to be at the Department of Home Affairs (or the relevant bank that also assists with passport application) when making the Application with the minor child. This can be challenging if you have a disinterested parent who does not want to cooperate with the passport application. As you will see later, legal action would need to be taken.

What are the steps to follow when I want to relocate to Amsterdam, Netherlands with my minor child? There is  another parent.

To simplify the process for relocation, the first step would be to receive the other parent’s consent in principle for the relocation and that he or she will co-operate in this regard. Once that has been resolved, the parent relocating would need to make the appointment for the minor child’s passport application as well as the application for the relevant VISA. Each country has different requirements; however, seeing that it is a relocation, you need to apply for the correct VISA. For that, you need the Passport.
Once the visa and travel arrangements have been finalised, the parent remaining behind will sign a parental consent letter for the international travel. That letter can be found on the Department of Home Affairs website. Basically, the parent remaining behind would state that he or she gives consent for the minor child to leave the Republic of South Africa and travel and/or relocate to Amsterdam, Netherlands.

What can I do if the other parent does not want to consent to the minor child’s relocation to Amsterdam, Netherlands?

If the parent remaining in South Africa does not want to consent to the minor child’s passport application and/or his or her relocation to Amsterdam, Netherlands, then you would need to approach the Court. The Court, as upper guardian of the minor child, may order that the parent’s consent for the passport application and relocation be dispensed with. What this entails is submitting Court documents explaining why you want to relocate to Amsterdam, Netherlands. The other parent would also have an opportunity to give reasons why he or she objects.
At the end of the process, the Court would determine what is in the minor child’s best interests. If it is in the minor child’s best interests to relocate to Amsterdam, Netherlands, the Court would make it possible despite the issue of consent or refusal.

What is the first step I should take if the other parent does not want to consent to the minor child’s passport application and/or relocation to Amsterdam, Netherlands?

If the other parent does not want to consent to the passport application and/or the relocation of the minor child to Amsterdam, Netherlands – in that case, we suggest you approach an attorney or advocate (trust account) to assist you with the legal process. He or she would then contact the other parent explaining the reasons for the relocation and request the necessary consent. If the parent remaining in South Africa does still not agree to the passport application and/or to the relocation to Amsterdam, Netherlands, then the attorney or advocate will proceed to take the matter to court. The legal route can be expensive. However, it is necessary to make the relocation of the minor child possible. You may also attend to the legal process yourself.

Getting legal assistance or help with your relocation application to Amsterdam, Netherlands

If you require legal assistance or representation with relocating to Amsterdam, Netherlands due to the other parent not cooperating or providing consent, then feel free to contact us for assistance. The Firm Advocate, Muhammad Abduroaf, deals with these types of matters.

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Top tips from a Senior Family Law Advocate on how to deal with your Child Custody matter in the Paarl Children’s Court

 

Family law legal matters can be very stressful. This is so whether you live in Paarl or any other city in South Africa. Especially so if you have no idea how the legal processes work. It is one thing to know that you are entitled to child support, but it is a totally different matter to know the law and procedure on how to claim child support. Luckily in child maintenance matters, the maintenance court is there to assist you in completing the application form. However, many times that is not enough. Especially so if the other parent has a lawyer and knows how to present the case for his or her client.

This article, however, deals with some top tips in care and contact or custody matters in the Children’s Court in Paarl. It would explain the processes involved and advise on how to be best prepared for your matter. This advice is applicable whether you live in Paarl or any other city in South Africa.

What to do before visiting the Paarl Children’s Court

Before you approach the Children’s Court in Paarl, first try to resolve the issues with the other parent. Therefore, if you want more contact with your child and the other parent is refusing, try to resolve the matter first with that parent. If that does not work, try mediation. The mediator can be anyone, from a trusted mutual friend, priest, or other religious leaders, or a professional like an attorney, psychologist, or the office of the Family Advocate. Paarl has many professionals that can assist you in this regard. If resolving the matter by yourselves is not possible, or mediation fails, then we suggest you approach the Paarl Children’s Court for assistance.

TIP: Focus on getting someone neutral to assist in mediating your matter. Organisations like FAMSA and FAMAC can be of assistance. Google them.

Approaching the Paarl Children’s Court

The Paarl Children’s Court should be approached if it is the closest Children’s Court to you. You need to verify with the Paarl Children’s Court that you fall under their area of jurisdiction. If not, they would direct you to which Children’s Court is applicable to you.

Once you arrive at the Paarl Children’s Court, they will provide you with a form headed “Bringing Matter to Court in Terms of Section 53 Children’s Act, 2005 (Act no. 38 of 2005) Regulation Relating to Children’s Court and International Child Abduction, 2008 [Regulation 6]. This form is also called Form 2.

In this form, you will provide all your particulars and that of the child or children and the other parent. The sections in the form are as follows:

  • PART A: PARTICULARS OF CHILD(REN)
  • PART B: PARTICULARS OF *CHILD WHO IS AFFECTED BY OR INVOLVED IN THE MATTER/PERSON *ACTING IN THE INTEREST OF THE CHILD/*ON BEHALF OF THE CHILD WHO CANNOT ACT IN HIS/HER OWN NAME/ *MEMBER OF A GROUP OF CLASS OF CHILDREN/*IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST (SECTION 53(2)
  • PART C: PARTICULARS OF PERSONS HAVING AN INTEREST IN THE MATTER
  • PART D: PARTICULARS OF MATTER

In part D, the following is stated which you need to provide in the form:

  • Nature of matter brought to Court: (Please give full details of the matter e.g., registration/amendment of parenting plans, removal of child to safe care, children in need of care and protection, placement in youth care centers, adoption etc.
  • Documents: Are there any documents relating to the matter? (If so please attach)

Once you have completed the form and attached the relevant documents to it, you must take it to a commissioner of Oaths to have it commissioned. It does not have to be in Paarl.

TIP: Draft a separate affidavit explaining your case. Outline some background information and reasons why the Court should give you what you request. Attach it to Form 2.

Processing your Application at the Paarl Children’s Court

Once you complete the Form A and submit it to the Clerk of the Paarl Children’s Court, they will process it and allocate it a case number or reference number. The Clerk of the Court would then allocate a date to the matter and advise the parties accordingly when the court date is. Please note that some courts follow a different process for processing the application and informing the parties of the court date. Please enquire from the Court when making the application what process they follow.

TIP: Obtain the contact details of the Court for you to contact them to obtain the Court date or other information. Ask for their contact number and email address.

Appearing in the Paarl Children’s Court

When notified of the Court date, both you and the other parent should attend. If you are making use of a lawyer (Advocate or Attorney), inform them timeously of the date. Depending on the Court, you may first see the Clerk or go directly to the Magistrate. The Children’s Court would do its best to try to resolve the matter. If the parents cannot come to an agreement, the Children’s Court may postpone the matter for either of the following:

  • Get a social worker involved in the matter;
  • Appoint a legal representative for the minor child;
  • Implement interim care and contact arrangements;
  • Having the parties attempt to agree on a parenting plan;
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In serious matters, the Court may remove the minor child from both parents and place the child in foster care. The powers of the Children’s Court are extensive. It will, however, focus on what is in the child’s best interests.

TIP: Be as vocal as possible. Do not expect the Court to be understanding of your case or be on your side. It is your duty to explain your case and provide the Court with all the relevant information they require for them to make a fair decision.

Finalising the matter in the Paarl Children’s Court

Once the Paarl Children’s Court has enough information to make a final decision, it will do so. Depending on the facts of the matter, that could either be making a Parenting Plan, an Order of the Court or a final care and contact Order. The Court may even make further interim orders, where the parties are to return to Court after a few months, or a year later.

TIP: Do not agree to something just because the social worker, a lawyer, or the Court suggest it. You need to be happy with what is decided.

The above Paarl Children’s Court Application tips should apply to the following provinces and cities:

Eastern Cape:

Alice, Butterworth, East London, Graaff-Reinet, Grahamstown, King William’s Town, Mthatha

Port Elizabeth, Queenstown, Uitenhage, Zwelitsha

Free State:

Bethlehem. Bloemfontein, Jagersfontein, Kroonstad, Odendaalsrus, Parys, Phuthaditjhaba, Sasolburg, Virginia, Welkom

Gauteng:

Benoni, Boksburg, Brakpan, Carletonville, Germiston, Johannesburg, Krugersdorp, Pretoria, Randburg, Randfontein, Roodepoort, Soweto, Springs, Vanderbijlpark, Vereeniging

KwaZulu-Natal:

Durban, Empangeni, Ladysmith, Newcastle, Pietermaritzburg, Pinetown, Ulundi, Umlazi

Limpopo:

Giyani, Lebowakgomo, Musina, Phalaborwa, Polokwane, Seshego, Sibasa, Thabazimbi

Mpumalanga:

Emalahleni, Nelspruit, Secunda, North West, Klerksdorp, Mahikeng, Mmabatho, Potchefstroom, Rustenburg, Northern Cape, Kimberley, Kuruman, Port Nolloth

Western Cape:

Bellville, Paarl, Constantia, George, Hopefield, Oudtshoorn, Paarl, Simon’s Town, Stellenbosch, Swellendam, Worcester

Commonly asked questions about divorce in South Africa.

The South African Courts are granting divorces to people on a daily basis. Some divorces were initiated a few weeks ago, and others go back several years. The distinction between couples who obtained a divorce in a matter of weeks and those who waited for years is straightforward. Those who chose to wait a few weeks realised that fighting was futile, and by getting divorced sooner, they could move on with their lives more quickly.

Our unopposed divorce service

If your marriage has broken down and you and your spouse agree to get divorced, talk to us about your uncontested divorce options. We guarantee that your divorce will be resolved swiftly and with minimal stress and anxiety. Here are some frequently asked questions about divorce. If you have any particular questions, don’t hesitate to schedule a consultation with us.

What are the costs of an unopposed divorce?

The costs of an unopposed divorce would vary. That would depend on the law firm and the issues involved. We offer an unopposed divorce at a fixed fee.

What questions to ask when considering divorce?

The most important question to ask when considering divorce is whether your marriage can be saved. If your marriage cannot be saved, then a divorce may be the best thing for you.

What is the requirement for a divorce in Court?

For a court to divorce you, the Court has to be convinced on a few aspects. They relate to the issue or jurisdiction; you are married, and the marriage has broken down irretrievably. If there are minor children involved, the Court would want to be convinced that their best interests are being upheld.

What is the biggest challenge of divorce?

The biggest challenge in divorce is for the parties to accept that their marriage is over.

What not to do when asking for a divorce?

Do not agree on things you may regret later—for example, agreeing to relinquish assets you may want to keep.

What to do before telling your spouse you want a divorce?

Make sure you want a divorce.

What to do before telling your wife you want a divorce?

Make sure you want a divorce.

What is the first step when you want a divorce?

It would be best if you saw a lawyer.

What are my rights as a wife in a divorce in South Africa?

If you were maintained by your husband during the marriage, you may have a right to personal maintenance or alimony.

How do I start a divorce process?

The divorce process starts with a Summons.

How much does divorce cost in South Africa?

It can range from a few thousand rands. You can also do it yourself for free.

How long does a divorce take in South Africa?

I can take a few weeks if it is unopposed or a few years if opposed. It depends on the Court as well. Some courts are very busy.

What is the first step to divorce in South Africa?

It is to institute if at Court.

What is a free divorce in South Africa?

It is where you do not make use of a lawyer. You can do the divorce yourself.

How can I speed up my divorce in South Africa?

Try to settle the divorce.

What happens to the provident fund when you divorce?

If you are married in a community of property, the non-member spouse should receive half.

How much is a wife entitled to in a divorce pension?

If you are married in a community of property, the wife is entitled to half.

How long after divorce can you remarry in South Africa?

Immediately.

Can I claim my husband’s pension after the divorce in South Africa?

Yes, you can.

What is spousal maintenance in South Africa?

It is where your spouse has to continue supporting you after the marriage.

How long does a pension fund take to pay out after divorce?

Usually between two to three months.

How long does it take to get money from GEPF after divorce?

It is best to contact them. However, it is estimated to take about two to three months.

Does GEPF pay a lump sum?

They should pay what the divorce order says.

Who qualifies for GEPF?

A spouse is someone who is married to the member.

How do I claim my spouse’s pension after divorce?

You should claim before the divorce. If after, you must approach the Court.

What are the spousal benefits of GEPF?

You should contact them.

How is the Gepf payout calculated?

You should contact them.

What is the final salary for Gepf?

You should contact them.

How much is a lump sum from the final salary pension?

It will usually be 50 % if you are married in a community of property.

Can my wife claim half of my pension?

Yes.

How is spouse pension calculated?

It is calculated at the value of the divorce.

How can I check my GEPF balance?

Contact them.

What is rule 43 in South Africa for divorce?

It is a procedure in the High Court where you claim child maintenance, custody or contribution towards legal costs pending the divorce finalisation.

Who loses the most in a divorce?

The children, if the parties keep fighting.

Do I have to support my wife after the divorce?

No, unless a court orders you to do so.

What are the stages of divorce for a woman?

There are no specific stages.

How do I decide when to divorce?

If your marriage has broken down and cannot be saved.

What is the number 1 reason for divorce?

Parties are incompatible.

What are the three effects of divorce?

It varies between people.

Who initiates divorce more?

One would have to look at the divorce statistics.

Can a divorce be denied in South Africa?

Yes, it can.

What should I ask myself before divorce?

Can the marriage be saved?

What are the disadvantages of divorce?

You are no longer together as a family unit.

What should you think about before divorce?

Can the marriage relationship be saved?

What to do before telling your spouse you want a divorce?

Speak to a divorce lawyer.

What to do before telling your wife you want a divorce?

Speak to a divorce lawyer.

Why should you never bring up divorce?

You should only bring it up if the marriage has broken down.

What are my rights as a wife in a divorce in South Africa?

You have a right to alimony if you can prove your claim.

What is the pensionable salary?

A salary where the pension is paid.

How is pension calculated?

It would be best if you spoke to your employer.

What is the rule 58 in divorce?

It is where you claim interim maintenance, custody or a contribution towards costs in the magistrates court.

Is everything split 50-50 in a divorce in South Africa?

Only if you are married in a community of property.

What happens to the provident fund when you divorce?

If you are married in a community of property, the non-member spouse will receive half the value as of the date of the divorce.

How much tax do you pay on a divorce settlement in South Africa?

You should speak to an accountant.

What documents are needed for divorce in South Africa?

Marriage certificate for the Court.

How much does it cost to file for divorce in SA?

From free to a few thousand.

What is a free divorce in South Africa?

It is where you do it yourself, or a lawyer does not charge you.

How long does it take to Finalise a divorce in South Africa?

From a few weeks if all is agreed upon to a few years if the parties cannot.

How long after divorce can you remarry in South Africa?

Immediately.

Who should file for divorce first in South Africa?

Any spouse.

Who gets custody of the child in divorce in South Africa?

The parent that can best care for the child.  

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