Relocation with my minor child to Vietnam, Ho Chi Minh City (Consent and Refusal) – Advocate Muhammad Abduroaf

The world is becoming a much smaller place, and technology plays a huge role. People are moving across the world for employment, love and happiness, something that was not the norm a few decades ago. There is no reason why you should remain in South Africa if you can find a better life for yourself and your family overseas. Moving overseas may provide you with the quality of life you want or the possibility of experiencing things you always wanted. The same applies to your child or children relocating with you.

Relocation of your minor child to Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam

If you are single and do not have any minor children, then moving around the world would not be too complicated. All you need to do is ensure that you have the necessary travel documentation and travel ticket (and spending money), and off you go. However, if you want to travel with your minor children (for example, ages one or two) or relocate to another country, things may not be that simple. Firstly, if there is another parent, and he or she has parental responsibilities and rights, then his or her consent is required. For example, let us say you live in Kimberley or Potchefstroom, South Africa, and you want to relocate to Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam, you would require the other parent’s consent to leave South Africa with your minor child. This can cause challenges, especially if the staying parent (in South Africa) does not agree to the relocation.

What about Passport Consent to travel or relocate to Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam?

The same applies when it comes to your minor child applying for a South African passport to relocate to Vietnam, or any country. Both parents who have parental responsibilities and rights of guardianship will have to consent to the minor child’s passport application as well. In this regard, both parents have to be at the Department of Home Affairs (or the relevant bank that also assists with passport application) when making the Application with the minor child. This can be challenging if you have a disinterested parent who does not want to cooperate with the passport application. As you will see later, legal action would need to be taken.

What are the steps to follow when I want to relocate to Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam with my minor child? There is another parent.

To simplify the process for relocation, the first step would be to receive the other parent’s consent in principle for the relocation and that he or she will co-operate in this regard. Once that has been resolved, the parent relocating would need to make the appointment for the minor child’s passport application as well as the application for the relevant VISA. Each country has different requirements; however, seeing that it is a relocation, you need to apply for the correct VISA. For that, you need the Passport. Once the visa and travel arrangements have been finalised, the parent remaining behind will sign a parental consent letter for the international travel. That letter can be found on the Department of Home Affairs website. Basically, the parent remaining behind would state that he or she gives consent for the minor child to leave the Republic of South Africa and travel and/or relocate to Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam.

What can I do if the other parent does not want to consent to the minor child’s relocation to Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam?

If the parent remaining in South Africa does not want to consent to the minor child’s passport application and/or his or her relocation to Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam, then you would need to approach the Court. The Court, as upper guardian of the minor child, may order that the parent’s consent for the passport application and relocation be dispensed with. What this entails is submitting Court documents explaining why you want to relocate to Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam. The other parent would also have an opportunity to give reasons why he or she objects. At the end of the process, the Court would determine what is in the minor child’s best interests. If it is in the minor child’s best interests to relocate to Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam, the Court would make it possible despite the issue of consent or refusal.

What is the first step I should take if the other parent does not want to consent to the minor child’s passport application and/or relocation to Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam?

If the other parent does not want to consent to the passport application and/or the relocation of the minor child to Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam – in that case, we suggest you approach an attorney or advocate (trust account) to assist you with the legal process. He or she would then contact the other parent explaining the reasons for the relocation and request the necessary consent. If the parent remaining in South Africa does still not agree to the passport application and/or to the relocation to Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam, then the attorney or advocate will proceed to take the matter to court. The legal route can be expensive. However, it is necessary to make the relocation of the minor child possible. You may also attend to the legal process yourself.

Getting legal assistance or help with your relocation application to Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam

If you require legal assistance or representation with relocating to Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam due to the other parent not cooperating or providing consent, then feel free to contact us for assistance. The Firm Advocate, Muhammad Abduroaf, deals with these types of matters.
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Relocation with my minor child to Vietnam, Ho Chi Minh City (Consent and Refusal) – Advocate Muhammad Abduroaf

The world is becoming a much smaller place, and technology plays a huge role. People are moving across the world for employment, love and happiness, something that was not the norm a few decades ago. There is no reason why you should remain in South Africa if you can find a better life for yourself and your family overseas. Moving overseas may provide you with the quality of life you want or the possibility of experiencing things you always wanted. The same applies to your child or children relocating with you.

Relocation of your minor child to Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam

If you are single and do not have any minor children, then moving around the world would not be too complicated. All you need to do is ensure that you have the necessary travel documentation and travel ticket (and spending money), and off you go. However, if you want to travel with your minor children (for example, ages one or two) or relocate to another country, things may not be that simple. Firstly, if there is another parent, and he or she has parental responsibilities and rights, then his or her consent is required. For example, let us say you live in Kimberley or Potchefstroom, South Africa, and you want to relocate to Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam, you would require the other parent’s consent to leave South Africa with your minor child. This can cause challenges, especially if the staying parent (in South Africa) does not agree to the relocation.

What about Passport Consent to travel or relocate to Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam?

The same applies when it comes to your minor child applying for a South African passport to relocate to Vietnam, or any country. Both parents who have parental responsibilities and rights of guardianship will have to consent to the minor child’s passport application as well. In this regard, both parents have to be at the Department of Home Affairs (or the relevant bank that also assists with passport application) when making the Application with the minor child. This can be challenging if you have a disinterested parent who does not want to cooperate with the passport application. As you will see later, legal action would need to be taken.

What are the steps to follow when I want to relocate to Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam with my minor child? There is another parent.

To simplify the process for relocation, the first step would be to receive the other parent’s consent in principle for the relocation and that he or she will co-operate in this regard. Once that has been resolved, the parent relocating would need to make the appointment for the minor child’s passport application as well as the application for the relevant VISA. Each country has different requirements; however, seeing that it is a relocation, you need to apply for the correct VISA. For that, you need the Passport.
Once the visa and travel arrangements have been finalised, the parent remaining behind will sign a parental consent letter for the international travel. That letter can be found on the Department of Home Affairs website. Basically, the parent remaining behind would state that he or she gives consent for the minor child to leave the Republic of South Africa and travel and/or relocate to Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam.

What can I do if the other parent does not want to consent to the minor child’s relocation to Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam?

If the parent remaining in South Africa does not want to consent to the minor child’s passport application and/or his or her relocation to Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam, then you would need to approach the Court. The Court, as upper guardian of the minor child, may order that the parent’s consent for the passport application and relocation be dispensed with. What this entails is submitting Court documents explaining why you want to relocate to Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam. The other parent would also have an opportunity to give reasons why he or she objects.

At the end of the process, the Court would determine what is in the minor child’s best interests. If it is in the minor child’s best interests to relocate to Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam, the Court would make it possible despite the issue of consent or refusal.

What is the first step I should take if the other parent does not want to consent to the minor child’s passport application and/or relocation to Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam?

If the other parent does not want to consent to the passport application and/or the relocation of the minor child to Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam – in that case, we suggest you approach an attorney or advocate (trust account) to assist you with the legal process. He or she would then contact the other parent explaining the reasons for the relocation and request the necessary consent. If the parent remaining in South Africa does still not agree to the passport application and/or to the relocation to Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam, then the attorney or advocate will proceed to take the matter to court. The legal route can be expensive. However, it is necessary to make the relocation of the minor child possible. You may also attend to the legal process yourself.

Getting legal assistance or help with your relocation application to Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam

If you require legal assistance or representation with relocating to Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam due to the other parent not cooperating or providing consent, then feel free to contact us for assistance. The Firm Advocate, Muhammad Abduroaf, deals with these types of matters.

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When people are in love, they often want to spend the rest of their lives together. And one way of doing so is to get married. Usually, after they got married, they will start a family. However, there is one important aspect many people do not consider before getting married. And that is the propriety regime that would apply to their marriage. In other words, what belongs to who during the marriage and after the marriage should they divorce or one spouse passes away.

Marriages in community of property – The Standard Regime

In South Africa, the default matrimonial property regime is that of in community of property and profit and loss.  What this means, is that whatever property the couple have during the marriage, they would share. This includes debt. Therefore, should a party receive a huge sum of money during the marriage, that money would belong to both the parties and form part of the joint estate. The same principle would apply should a party get into financial trouble. In such a case both the spouses or the joint estate would be responsible for that debt. If spouses are happy to share in each other’s wealth and liabilities during the marriage, then being married in community of property may be a good option. However, if this matrimonial property regime does not appeal to a couple before they get married, then a different matrimonial property regime should be looked at. Now let us move on to a marriage out of community of property.

Marriages out of community of property – with or without the accrual regime

Marriages out of community of property may take two faces. The first is out of community of property without the inclusion of the accrual regime. This is its purest form. The other would be a marriage out of community of property with the inclusion of the accrual regime. Before we explain the differences between the two, we need to explain to you what it is meant to be married out of community of property and profit and loss.

Marriage out of community of property

Being married out of community of property means that spouses during the marriage own their own assets and are solely responsible for any debt owed by either of them. This can be compared to a marriage in community of property where the opposite applies. Therefore, if the couple is married out of community of property, a spouse would not require the other spouse’s consent to incur a debt. A spouse would not be entitled to claim any monies belonging to the other spouse by virtue of being married. In short, if you are married out of community of property, you are solely responsible for your estate. As would be seen further below, to be married out of community of property you have to enter into an antenuptial contract.

What is the accrual regime?

As mentioned above, a marriage out of community of property could have the accrual regime apply to it or not. The aspect of accrual only comes into play should the parties divorce or one of them pass away. The parties would then share in half the difference between the two estates. This amount is referred to as the accrual. Therefore, by way of example, should one spouse pass away and the estate of the deceased has grown in the sum of R10 000 – 00, then the surviving spouse should receive half of that. The above example would apply if the surviving spouse’s estate has not grown at all. If it has grown, then they would share in half the difference of their respective growths.

Marriage out of community of property with the inclusion of the accrual regime

The accrual regime automatically applies to a marriage out of community of property, unless it is expressly excluded in an antenuptial contract. During the marriage, the same principles as above apply to a marriage out of community of property with the inclusion of the accrual regime.

Marriage out of community of property with the exclusion of the accrual regime

If the couple does not want the accrual regime to apply to their marriage out of community of property, they need to expressly stipulate it in the antenuptial contract. If they do not do so, then their marriage would automatically be out of community of property with the inclusion of the accrual regime.

Parties entering into an antenuptial contract before the marriage

As stated, if a couple wants to get married out of community of property with or without the inclusion of the accrual regime, they need to enter into an antenuptial contract. They would sign a document wherein they stipulate what matrimonial property regime would apply to the marriage. Other matters may be included in an antenuptial contract. For example, assets that should not be included in the calculation of the accrual. The antenuptial contract is signed before a notary public and it is registered at the Deeds Office. In that way, the public would know that you are married out of community of property.

What happens if I did not enter into an antenuptial contract and want to change it later?

Should a couple get married and later decide to change the matrimonial property regime, they may do so with the consent of the High Court. A court application would have to be made to the High Court explaining to the court why they wish to change the matrimonial property regime and also which property regime they now wish to apply to them.

Publication of Application to change the matrimonial property regime

Various other information would be included in the High Court Application which could entail details of various creditors of the spouses and their assets and liabilities and so on. Attached to the court documents would also be a draft postnuptial contract. The Application and the Court date would be published in the Government Gazette and one or two local newspapers for potential creditors to be informed about the pending Court Application.

Informing creditors of the change in the matrimonial property regime

Various creditors would also be notified of the application via registered mail. The application can be expensive because of the work and expenses involved. This cost includes attorney fees advocate fees, publication fees etc. It is therefore important to decide before the marriage whether or not the matrimonial property regime of community of property is the best regime for you before getting married. If it is not the best for you and your intended spouse, we advised that the enter into an antenuptial contract. This will not only save you money in the long run but also avoid a lot of complications in the future. Speak to us should you wish to enter into an antenuptial contract. Our antenuptial contract product may be purchased here.   We are certain that you found the above article useful and interesting. Please consider sharing it on the share buttons below. They include Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, WhatsApp, Gmail and more. Someone may find it useful as well. Should you require business advice or services, feel free to click on these links: Business SA | Private Legal | Envirolaws    

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