Relocation with my minor child to Indonesia, Denpasar (Consent and Refusal) – Advocate Muhammad Abduroaf

The world is becoming a much smaller place, and technology plays a huge role. People are moving across the world for employment, love and happiness, something that was not the norm a few decades ago. There is no reason why you should remain in South Africa if you can find a better life for yourself and your family overseas. Moving overseas may provide you with the quality of life you want or the possibility of experiencing things you always wanted. The same applies to your child or children relocating with you.

Relocation of your minor child to Denpasar, Indonesia

If you are single and do not have any minor children, then moving around the world would not be too complicated. All you need to do is ensure that you have the necessary travel documentation and travel ticket (and spending money), and off you go. However, if you want to travel with your minor children (for example, ages five or six) or relocate to another country, things may not be that simple. Firstly, if there is another parent, and he or she has parental responsibilities and rights, then his or her consent is required. For example, let us say you live in Kuruman or Rustenburg, South Africa, and you want to relocate to Denpasar, Indonesia, you would require the other parent’s consent to leave South Africa with your minor child. This can cause challenges, especially if the staying parent (in South Africa) does not agree to the relocation.

What about Passport Consent to travel or relocate to Denpasar, Indonesia?

The same applies when it comes to your minor child applying for a South African passport to relocate to Indonesia, or any country. Both parents who have parental responsibilities and rights of guardianship will have to consent to the minor child’s passport application as well. In this regard, both parents have to be at the Department of Home Affairs (or the relevant bank that also assists with passport application) when making the Application with the minor child. This can be challenging if you have a disinterested parent who does not want to cooperate with the passport application. As you will see later, legal action would need to be taken.

What are the steps to follow when I want to relocate to Denpasar, Indonesia with my minor child? There is another parent.

To simplify the process for relocation, the first step would be to receive the other parent’s consent in principle for the relocation and that he or she will co-operate in this regard. Once that has been resolved, the parent relocating would need to make the appointment for the minor child’s passport application as well as the application for the relevant VISA. Each country has different requirements; however, seeing that it is a relocation, you need to apply for the correct VISA. For that, you need the Passport. Once the visa and travel arrangements have been finalised, the parent remaining behind will sign a parental consent letter for the international travel. That letter can be found on the Department of Home Affairs website. Basically, the parent remaining behind would state that he or she gives consent for the minor child to leave the Republic of South Africa and travel and/or relocate to Denpasar, Indonesia.

What can I do if the other parent does not want to consent to the minor child’s relocation to Denpasar, Indonesia?

If the parent remaining in South Africa does not want to consent to the minor child’s passport application and/or his or her relocation to Denpasar, Indonesia, then you would need to approach the Court. The Court, as upper guardian of the minor child, may order that the parent’s consent for the passport application and relocation be dispensed with. What this entails is submitting Court documents explaining why you want to relocate to Denpasar, Indonesia. The other parent would also have an opportunity to give reasons why he or she objects. At the end of the process, the Court would determine what is in the minor child’s best interests. If it is in the minor child’s best interests to relocate to Denpasar, Indonesia, the Court would make it possible despite the issue of consent or refusal.

What is the first step I should take if the other parent does not want to consent to the minor child’s passport application and/or relocation to Denpasar, Indonesia?

If the other parent does not want to consent to the passport application and/or the relocation of the minor child to Denpasar, Indonesia – in that case, we suggest you approach an attorney or advocate (trust account) to assist you with the legal process. He or she would then contact the other parent explaining the reasons for the relocation and request the necessary consent. If the parent remaining in South Africa does still not agree to the passport application and/or to the relocation to Denpasar, Indonesia, then the attorney or advocate will proceed to take the matter to court. The legal route can be expensive. However, it is necessary to make the relocation of the minor child possible. You may also attend to the legal process yourself.

Getting legal assistance or help with your relocation application to Denpasar, Indonesia

If you require legal assistance or representation with relocating to Denpasar, Indonesia due to the other parent not cooperating or providing consent, then feel free to contact us for assistance. The Firm Advocate, Muhammad Abduroaf, deals with these types of matters.
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Relocation with my minor child to Indonesia, Denpasar (Consent and Refusal) – Advocate Muhammad Abduroaf

The world is becoming a much smaller place, and technology plays a huge role. People are moving across the world for employment, love and happiness, something that was not the norm a few decades ago. There is no reason why you should remain in South Africa if you can find a better life for yourself and your family overseas. Moving overseas may provide you with the quality of life you want or the possibility of experiencing things you always wanted. The same applies to your child or children relocating with you.

Relocation of your minor child to Denpasar, Indonesia

If you are single and do not have any minor children, then moving around the world would not be too complicated. All you need to do is ensure that you have the necessary travel documentation and travel ticket (and spending money), and off you go. However, if you want to travel with your minor children (for example, ages five or six) or relocate to another country, things may not be that simple. Firstly, if there is another parent, and he or she has parental responsibilities and rights, then his or her consent is required. For example, let us say you live in Kuruman or Rustenburg, South Africa, and you want to relocate to Denpasar, Indonesia, you would require the other parent’s consent to leave South Africa with your minor child. This can cause challenges, especially if the staying parent (in South Africa) does not agree to the relocation.

What about Passport Consent to travel or relocate to Denpasar, Indonesia?

The same applies when it comes to your minor child applying for a South African passport to relocate to Indonesia, or any country. Both parents who have parental responsibilities and rights of guardianship will have to consent to the minor child’s passport application as well. In this regard, both parents have to be at the Department of Home Affairs (or the relevant bank that also assists with passport application) when making the Application with the minor child. This can be challenging if you have a disinterested parent who does not want to cooperate with the passport application. As you will see later, legal action would need to be taken.

What are the steps to follow when I want to relocate to Denpasar, Indonesia with my minor child? There is another parent.

To simplify the process for relocation, the first step would be to receive the other parent’s consent in principle for the relocation and that he or she will co-operate in this regard. Once that has been resolved, the parent relocating would need to make the appointment for the minor child’s passport application as well as the application for the relevant VISA. Each country has different requirements; however, seeing that it is a relocation, you need to apply for the correct VISA. For that, you need the Passport.
Once the visa and travel arrangements have been finalised, the parent remaining behind will sign a parental consent letter for the international travel. That letter can be found on the Department of Home Affairs website. Basically, the parent remaining behind would state that he or she gives consent for the minor child to leave the Republic of South Africa and travel and/or relocate to Denpasar, Indonesia.

What can I do if the other parent does not want to consent to the minor child’s relocation to Denpasar, Indonesia?

If the parent remaining in South Africa does not want to consent to the minor child’s passport application and/or his or her relocation to Denpasar, Indonesia, then you would need to approach the Court. The Court, as upper guardian of the minor child, may order that the parent’s consent for the passport application and relocation be dispensed with. What this entails is submitting Court documents explaining why you want to relocate to Denpasar, Indonesia. The other parent would also have an opportunity to give reasons why he or she objects.
At the end of the process, the Court would determine what is in the minor child’s best interests. If it is in the minor child’s best interests to relocate to Denpasar, Indonesia, the Court would make it possible despite the issue of consent or refusal.

What is the first step I should take if the other parent does not want to consent to the minor child’s passport application and/or relocation to Denpasar, Indonesia?

If the other parent does not want to consent to the passport application and/or the relocation of the minor child to Denpasar, Indonesia – in that case, we suggest you approach an attorney or advocate (trust account) to assist you with the legal process. He or she would then contact the other parent explaining the reasons for the relocation and request the necessary consent. If the parent remaining in South Africa does still not agree to the passport application and/or to the relocation to Denpasar, Indonesia, then the attorney or advocate will proceed to take the matter to court. The legal route can be expensive. However, it is necessary to make the relocation of the minor child possible. You may also attend to the legal process yourself.

Getting legal assistance or help with your relocation application to Denpasar, Indonesia

If you require legal assistance or representation with relocating to Denpasar, Indonesia due to the other parent not cooperating or providing consent, then feel free to contact us for assistance. The Firm Advocate, Muhammad Abduroaf, deals with these types of matters.

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Child custody appeals from the Children’s Court to the High Court of South Africa

This article deals with an appeal from the Children’s Court to the High Court. I’ve never been one to complain of my legal situation. The father of my daughter, and I have always had a cordial relationship. Until recently, the father of my minor child paid child support, and he would have contact with her regularly. However, what the father has done recently was approach the children’s court and make false allegations that I have been refusing him contact with his minor daughter. This was not to be done, and I could not allow him to continue lying to the court.

Our past relationship before approaching the Children’s Court

To give some context, the father of my minor child and I met 12 years ago. Soon after, I fell pregnant, and my minor child was born. The father was not involved much in the minor child’s life until soon after she was born. He only met the minor child for the first time when she was about seven months old. He saw her at least once a year until she started attending school. At this time, I approached him for child maintenance because he had not been paying adequate child maintenance for the minor child.

Approaching the Maintenance Court and the Children’s Court

We then approached the maintenance court, and the maintenance court ordered that he pay half the minor child’s school fees, place her on his medical aid, and pay a cash contribution towards her daily expenditure. At the same time, we also approached the children’s court, which assisted us in drafting a parenting plan. The father would see the minor child every second weekend from a Friday until late Sunday as well as one evening in the week. We would also share half the school holidays as well as special days. This would include the minor child‘s birthday, Father’s Day, Mother’s Day, and so on.

Father wanting every weekend with teh minor child

All went well regarding visitation until about a year ago. The father said I am limited his contact regarding the minor child. He wanted to have her on weekends with her as well. Me not agreeing to is, according to him, is refusing him contact. I told him that I also need time with the minor child on weekends. I already care for the child during the week. I attend to her homework and all her needs. At least two weekends a month, I require time to go out with her, take her to the beach, maybe watch a movie, and have some fun time together.

Father approaches the Children’s Court for a variation of the Parenting Plan

It is unfair that he should have the minor child every weekend and not take care of her during the week. Furthermore, the care and contact arrangement that is in place was finalised with the children’s court. I was therefore acting in terms of a court order. The father then approached the children’s court, and we had a hearing date. The matter proceeded to the children’s court magistrate, who heard both parties.

Decision of the Children’s Court

At the end of the enquiry, the children’s court made an order that the father may have the minor child in his care for three weekends per month. What the children’s court did not do was ask the minor child what the minor child wanted. Furthermore, it has not appointed a legal representative for the minor child. Lastly, there was no expert recommendation on this matter. For example, the children’s court did not appoint the office of all the family advocates, or are you a social worker to investigate this matter?

Appealing to the High Court regarding the Children’s Court decision

They failed to consider various factors and assistance from other parties that would assist the court in determining the minor child’s best interest. I then sought the assistance of an attorney, who advised me that I would need to appeal the children’s court’s decision. We then requested reasons for the children’s court decision. In short, the children’s court magistrate was of the view that the minor child does not need to spend so much time with me on the weekend, seeing that I am already caring for her during the week.

High Court dealing with the Appeal from the Children’s Court

The matter then proceeded to the High Court. The High Court took issue with the fact that the children’s court had not consulted with the minor child, has not obtained the assistance of the office of all the family advocates or a social worker, nor has the children’s court appointed a legal representative to the minor child to determine what the minor child’s view and wishes are. The High Court ordered that the care and contact arrangement that was in place should remain.

Possitive outcome of the Appeal to the High Court

I was thrilled that I took the matter to the High Court and appealed the children’s court decision. Had I not decided to take the magistrate to the children’s court on appeal, the father of the minor child would’ve had three weekends a month with the minor child and me only one. This, I believe, would have been unfair.

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