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Posted on 11 February 2025 by Telelaw

Newlands – New Water Collection Point in Newlands Cape Town
[caption id="attachment_6323" align="alignleft" width="300"] New Water Collection Point Taps – Newlands Cape Town[/caption] The water crisis in the Western Cape is still upon us. Other than limiting our water usage, the majority of Cape Town ratepayers had to drill deep into their pockets to pay for the water they consumed. For many, no matter how little water they consume, they pay more for water now, than ever before. The crisis is affecting our pockets. Since the water crisis, residents have resorted to alternative means of acquiring and saving water. Some are using boreholes, others JoJo tanks, and others collecting water from various springs around Cape Town. One popular area where springs are in abundance, is Newlands, Cape Town. Since recently, people collected water from two points in Newlands. Now there is an additional collection point available to the public, situated behind the Newlands Swimming Baths, in Cape Town. Look at the picture above, can you see the empty swimming pools? [caption id="attachment_6316" align="alignleft" width="300"] View from the parking lot at the new Water Collecting Point, Newlands, Cape Town[/caption]
When did the new Water Collection Point Open?
The new water collection point opened its doors (or taps) to the public on Wednesday 9 May 2018. We, however, presume that it was only officially open the following day. Don’t quote us on that. Not many people know of it yet. A visit to the location on Friday morning, at 5:40, while doing a run, woke up the security guard on duty. It was clear he was new to his job and was a bit startled. Needless to say, we were welcomed to use the taps. We thought it was best to first check out the new location, before coming with our buckets, bottles and wheelbarrows to collect water. [caption id="attachment_6322" align="alignleft" width="300"] Parking Lot at the new New Spring Water Collection Point, Newlands, Cape Town[/caption]
Where is the new Water Collection Point Situated?
This new Water Collection Point is situated behind the Newlands Swimming Pools. The pools are currently empty. One would wonder why not fill the pools up with spring water? After all, there is an abundance of it, and its free. Let’s leave that thought again for summer. To get to the new location, you have to drive from Claremont, southwards, towards Cape Town, with Newlands Baths on your left. As you pass the Baths, you would soon see a turn off to your left, taking you into the parking lot of the new collection point. There seems to be ample parking. However, with this water crisis still looming, congestion is expected in the near future. When we visited the location this afternoon, to take some pictures (from our phone – who moves around these days with a camera?), they were busy with some maintenance work at the entrance. It seems as if they were cutting some branches, making way for the parking. The picture collaborates with our assumption. We guess in the next few weeks, security will be more visible on the post. [caption id="attachment_6317" align="alignleft" width="300"] Drive into the new Spring Water Collection Point – Close to Spur[/caption]
What are the operating times?
According to the banner on display, the operating times are from 05:00 until 23:00. So, if you are an early bird (like us), or late sleeper (or both), they cater for you. The current operating water collection points in Newlands are open 24/7. This may come to an end soon. We were advised by security that they expect approximately 5000, yes five thousand visitors a day. We suggest that you consider parking at the Parking Lot of Newlands Baths, should you decide to collect during peak times. The only problem with that is, you would have to walk about 200 meters to your vehicle with bottles in your hands. Unless you have a trolley, that may not be an issue. We presume many entrepreneurs would be nearby assisting people with their water carrying for a small fee. Otherwise, use it as your weekly workout session.

The new Water Collection Taps at Newlands Cape Town
Can one drink the water?
According to the banner on display (it may be clear in one of the pictures); you use the water at your own risk. That is a good disclaimer. We were however advised by the security on site that it is the same water the comes from the taps of the sister springs. It was said that the municipality will manage the new taps, so I guess a disclaimer is essential. Should your tummy ever cramp, remember the disclaimer before speaking to your lawyer. And no, we are not the City’s lawyers. [caption id="attachment_6320" align="alignleft" width="300"] View to 8 taps on the North Facing Side of the Collection Point[/caption]
How much can you collect?
The rules are the same as at the other springs, 25 litres of water per person. So, bring with all your kids, neighbours and friends and make an outing of it. Unless the law changes, pets do not count as persons for the purposes of water collection (fee legal advice). If you have time available, fill up a 25-litre container, take it to your car, and then stand in the queue again. That might save you a few trips to Newlands. [caption id="attachment_6318" align="alignleft" width="300"] Newlands Springs Collection Point May 2019 – Parking for Water Collectors[/caption]
Things to note
25 Litres per person;
15 minutes of parking;
Wait your turn;
Have loads of patience;
Wheel Clamping;
Use water at your own risk;
Collect from 05:00 until 23:00;
Enjoy the experience
Keep saving water
[caption id="attachment_6332" align="alignleft" width="300"] Water Crises Cape Town Newlands Spring Collection Point[/caption] If you have any comments, please feel free to post it below. Also, have a look at a previous article on World Water Day. If you want some insight into the law, read this article:
YOUR HUMAN RIGHT TO DRINKING WATER: A BRIEF CONSTITUTIONAL PERSPECTIVE

HAPPY WATER COLLECTING – OUR LAWYER WATER WARRIORS

Posted on 11 February 2025 by Telelaw

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Test Postie Relocation with my minor child to Thailand, Bangkok (Consent and Refusal) – Advocate Muhammad Abduroaf
The world is becoming a much smaller place, and technology plays a huge role. People are moving across the world for employment, love and happiness, something that was not the norm a few decades ago. There is no reason why you should remain in South Africa if you can find a better life for yourself and your family overseas. Moving overseas may provide you with the quality of life you want or the possibility of experiencing things you always wanted. The same applies to your child or children relocating with you.
Relocation of your minor child to Bangkok, Thailand
If you are single and do not have any minor children, then moving around the world would not be too complicated. All you need to do is ensure that you have the necessary travel documentation and travel ticket (and spending money), and off you go. However, if you want to travel with your minor children (for example, ages one or two) or relocate to another country, things may not be that simple. Firstly, if there is another parent, and he or she has parental responsibilities and rights, then his or her consent is required. For example, let us say you live in Durban or Pretoria, South Africa, and you want to relocate to Bangkok, Thailand, you would require the other parent’s consent to leave South Africa with your minor child. This can cause challenges, especially if the staying parent (in South Africa) does not agree to the relocation.
What about Passport Consent to travel or relocate to Bangkok, Thailand?
The same applies when it comes to your minor child applying for a South African passport to relocate to Thailand, or any country. Both parents who have parental responsibilities and rights of guardianship will have to consent to the minor child’s passport application as well. In this regard, both parents have to be at the Department of Home Affairs (or the relevant bank that also assists with passport application) when making the Application with the minor child. This can be challenging if you have a disinterested parent who does not want to cooperate with the passport application. As you will see later, legal action would need to be taken.
What are the steps to follow when I want to relocate to Bangkok, Thailand with my minor child? There is there another parent.
To simplify the process for relocation, the first step would be to receive the other parent’s consent in principle for the relocation and that he or she will co-operate in this regard. Once that has been resolved, the parent relocating would need to make the appointment for the minor child’s passport application as well as the application for the relevant VISA. Each country has different requirements; however, seeing that it is a relocation, you need to apply for the correct VISA. For that, you need the Passport.
Once the visa and travel arrangements have been finalised, the parent remaining behind will sign a parental consent letter for the international travel. That letter can be found on the Department of Home Affairs website. Basically, the parent remaining behind would state that he or she gives consent for the minor child to leave the Republic of South Africa and travel and/or relocate to Bangkok, Thailand.
What can I do if the other parent does not want to consent to the minor child’s relocation to Bangkok, Thailand?
If the parent remaining in South Africa does not want to consent to the minor child’s passport application and/or his or her relocation to Bangkok, Thailand, then you would need to approach the Court. The Court, as upper guardian of the minor child, may order that the parent’s consent for the passport application and relocation be dispensed with. What this entails is submitting Court documents explaining why you want to relocate to Bangkok, Thailand. The other parent would also have an opportunity to give reasons why he or she objects.
At the end of the process, the Court would determine what is in the minor child’s best interests. If it is in the minor child’s best interests to relocate to Bangkok, Thailand, the Court would make it possible despite the issue of consent or refusal.
What is the first step I should take if the other parent does not want to consent to the minor child’s passport application and/or relocation to Bangkok, Thailand?
If the other parent does not want to consent to the passport application and/or the relocation of the minor child to Bangkok, Thailand – in that case, we suggest you approach an attorney or advocate (trust account) to assist you with the legal process. He or she would then contact the other parent explaining the reasons for the relocation and request the necessary consent. If the parent remaining in South Africa does still not agree to the passport application and/or to the relocation to Bangkok, Thailand, then the attorney or advocate will proceed to take the matter to court. The legal route can be expensive. However, it is necessary to make the relocation of the minor child possible. You may also attend to the legal process yourself.
Getting legal assistance or help with your relocation application to Bangkok, Thailand
If you require legal assistance or representation with relocating to Bangkok, Thailand due to the other parent not cooperating or providing consent, then feel free to contact us for assistance. The Firm Advocate, Muhammad Abduroaf, deals with these types of matters.

Posted on 11 February 2025 by Telelaw

How much child support should you claim or pay?
[caption id="attachment_7076" align="alignleft" width="230"] Advocate Muhammad Abduroaf – Advocate of the High Court of South Africa[/caption] It is not only mothers who want to know how much maintenance they should claim. Fathers are very much interested in wanting to know how much they should pay. It is my view that there is nothing wrong with a father wanting to know whether or not he is paying too much maintenance. This is so as it is both parent’s responsibilities to maintain a child according to their means. However, what I do have the issue with is when fathers try to avoid their maintenance obligations. Even if you are unemployed, you can still pay maintenance depending on your means. And then you have mothers who want to exploit the fathers. The same applies when the roles are reversed. This is when the father is the primary caregiver and the mother pays him child support. – Adv. Muhammad Abduroaf LL.B LL.M – Advocate of the High Court of South Africa. Purchase a Consultation with us from our Online Shop, by clicking here.

Common child maintenance questions

How much child support should I claim for my child?
How much child support should I pay for my children?
The father of my child is unemployed, should I still claim child support?

These are two questions which are posed to me regularly. But what is the answer? What follows are certain factors I use to determine the amount of child support my clients should claim or pay when dealing with a child support matter.

Factors to consider regarding child support amounts

There are many factors to consider when it comes to figures in child support matters. Some are common to most people. However, depending on the situation, they won’t be the same for everyone. Remember, the explanation below is provided for information purposes only. The formula I follow is as follows:

What are the reasonable monthly needs of the child? If you can place an amount to it, do so.
The monthly income and expenses of both parents. The assets of the parents should also be considered should they not have an income or be unemployed.
What can each parent reasonably contribute towards the monthly expenses of the child?

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Reasonable needs of a child – Basic Maintenance Question

The reasonable needs of a child include food, clothing, accommodation, medical expenses and so on. Depending on the standard of living of the parents, or what the child is accustomed to, as seen later, it could include extramural expenses, the upkeep of a pony, and piano lessons. Once you determined what the child’s needs are, and what the parents can afford, you can determine what each parent should contribute. This amount should factor in once off yearly expenses. For example, school fees, TV and Car licenses and membership fees and so on. Let me explain this by way of example. Purchase a Consultation with us from our Online Shop, by clicking here.

Income and expenses of child and parents

Child’s expense: R 1 000 – 00.
Custodian Parent’s income: R 10 000 – 00.
Custodian Parent’s monthly expenses: R 5 000 – 00.
Paying parent’s income: R 20 000 – 00.
Paying parent’s monthly expenses: R 10 000 – 00.

Considering the above example, the paying parent earns double that of the custodian parent. And his or her monthly expenses are proportionately the same as that of the has parent. Therefore, if all else being equal, his or her contribution should be double of that of the custodian parent. If the paying parent becomes unemployed, his maintenance obligations does nott come to an end. He may have other means. If he has a flashy car, he needs to downgrade and use some of that money for maintenance.

Final child maintenance amount:

The Paying parent would pay two thirds of the child’s expenses which equates to R 666 – 00 per month. And the custodian parent would thus cover the balance of R 334 – 00 per month. The R 666 – 00 would be less should he pay any of the minor child’s expenses directly. For example, medical aid or school fees.

The challenge regarding child maintenance amounts

The golden rule in all matters regarding children is that their best interest be upheld. However, in child maintenance matters it is not as easy as saying that the child needs to have the best of clothes, education, and food available. By taking this view, it would be as saying that during the parents’ marriage, or while the parents lived together, the child went to the best school in the area, wore the best of clothes and ate the best of food. This is so, notwithstanding the parents earning a far below average income. Such a legal approach would be nonsensical. Another challenge is when the paying parent is self-employed or unemployed. In the case of self-employed parents, their income varies. However, what we look at is the average they earn each month. For an unemployed parent, as stated, we look at their means.

Factors the Court considers in Child Maintenance Matters

Each child maintenance case is determined on its own merits by weighing various factors. There are certain overlapping factors. The factors to consider are:

The reasonable needs of the minor child;
The reasonable expenses of the parents;
The standard of living the child was accustomed to while the parties were married or living together (if applicable);
The earning capacity of the parents; and
The assets of the parents.

Therefore, it does not mean every 5-year-old child will require a child maintenance contribution of R 500 00 (five hundred rands). A contribution of R 500 – 00 for a specific 5-year-old child might be reasonable or even too high, depending on the circumstances. Let me provide you with two scenarios: Purchase a Consultation with us from our Online Shop, by clicking here.

Scenario A – Child Maintenance

A 5-year-old child’s parents each earns R 500 – 00 per month. They were bringing up the child perfectly under the circumstances with their modest standard of living which is the norm in the area they live in. Furthermore, this is the same standard the parents were accustomed to when they were raised by their parents. If they are to estimate the costs of the child, it would be about R 200 – 00 per month which goes to food, shelter, clothes etc. Should the parents separate or divorce, and, let’s say in this case, the mother claims maintenance from the father for child support, she would not have a case for more than R 150 – 00 per month. You might wonder why I don’t say R 100 – 00 per month seeing that the parents earned the same salary? The mother in this scenario had to find alternative accommodation, and therefore the child would require more maintenance (it could even be less).

Scenario B – Child Maintenance

Let’s say the parents of a 5-year-old child each earns R 50 000 – 00 per month. The child has an au pair, own room, policies in his or her favour, expensive clothes, medical aid, expensive creams, attends ballet and violin classes etc. The monthly costs of this child are about R 25 000 – 00 per month. Should the parents separate, a claim for maintenance could easily be in the region of R 15 000 – 00. R 14 850 – 00 more than the 5-year-old child in the previous scenario above. The amount to pay therefore all depends on the facts, circumstances etc. To make things more complicated, if the mother in this scenario have assets worth millions and the father only owns a car of R 100 000 – 00, his contribution could be far less than R 15 000 – 00, even if they have the same monthly salary. It is even possible that his contribution could be R 150 – 00 (and not R 15 000 – 00) as in the case of scenario A above. All these factors have to be discussed with your maintenance lawyer or advocate. I hope this gave you a feel for how child support or child maintenance is calculated. Therefore, in answering the questions posed above, i.e. How much child support should you claim for your child, and how much child maintenance should you pay; the answer is, it depends on the facts.

Other maintenance calculation views

You or your attorney or advocate might have one view on what the amount should be, however the other parent or the maintenance court might have a totally different view. I therefore strongly advise that you first consult with a maintenance lawyer or advocate, or the maintenance court before submitting your amount to the court. In complicated cases, an advocate may be approached by your attorney for an opinion. Sharing is Caring This and other articles and posts found on this website are written by Adv. Muhammad Abduroaf to assist people with various family law related issues they may have. If you find any of our articles and posts interesting, or possibly useful to others, please link and share it on Social media.

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Posted on 11 February 2025 by Telelaw