Relocation with my minor child to Italy, Venice (Consent and Refusal) – Advocate Muhammad Abduroaf

The world is becoming a much smaller place, and technology plays a huge role. People are moving across the world for employment, love and happiness, something that was not the norm a few decades ago. There is no reason why you should remain in South Africa if you can find a better life for yourself and your family overseas. Moving overseas may provide you with the quality of life you want or the possibility of experiencing things you always wanted. The same applies to your child or children relocating with you.

Relocation of your minor child to Venice, Italy

If you are single and do not have any minor children, then moving around the world would not be too complicated. All you need to do is ensure that you have the necessary travel documentation and travel ticket (and spending money), and off you go. However, if you want to travel with your minor children (for example, ages three or four) or relocate to another country, things may not be that simple. Firstly, if there is another parent, and he or she has parental responsibilities and rights, then his or her consent is required. For example, let us say you live in Durban or Pretoria, South Africa, and you want to relocate to Venice, Italy, you would require the other parent’s consent to leave South Africa with your minor child. This can cause challenges, especially if the staying parent (in South Africa) does not agree to the relocation.

What about Passport Consent to travel or relocate to Venice, Italy?

The same applies when it comes to your minor child applying for a South African passport to relocate to Italy, or any country. Both parents who have parental responsibilities and rights of guardianship will have to consent to the minor child’s passport application as well. In this regard, both parents have to be at the Department of Home Affairs (or the relevant bank that also assists with passport application) when making the Application with the minor child. This can be challenging if you have a disinterested parent who does not want to cooperate with the passport application. As you will see later, legal action would need to be taken.

What are the steps to follow when I want to relocate to Venice, Italy with my minor child? There is there another parent.

To simplify the process for relocation, the first step would be to receive the other parent’s consent in principle for the relocation and that he or she will co-operate in this regard. Once that has been resolved, the parent relocating would need to make the appointment for the minor child’s passport application as well as the application for the relevant VISA. Each country has different requirements; however, seeing that it is a relocation, you need to apply for the correct VISA. For that, you need the Passport. Once the visa and travel arrangements have been finalised, the parent remaining behind will sign a parental consent letter for the international travel. That letter can be found on the Department of Home Affairs website. Basically, the parent remaining behind would state that he or she gives consent for the minor child to leave the Republic of South Africa and travel and/or relocate to Venice, Italy.

What can I do if the other parent does not want to consent to the minor child’s relocation to Venice, Italy?

If the parent remaining in South Africa does not want to consent to the minor child’s passport application and/or his or her relocation to Venice, Italy, then you would need to approach the Court. The Court, as upper guardian of the minor child, may order that the parent’s consent for the passport application and relocation be dispensed with. What this entails is submitting Court documents explaining why you want to relocate to Venice, Italy. The other parent would also have an opportunity to give reasons why he or she objects. At the end of the process, the Court would determine what is in the minor child’s best interests. If it is in the minor child’s best interests to relocate to Venice, Italy, the Court would make it possible despite the issue of consent or refusal.

What is the first step I should take if the other parent does not want to consent to the minor child’s passport application and/or relocation to Venice, Italy?

If the other parent does not want to consent to the passport application and/or the relocation of the minor child to Venice, Italy – in that case, we suggest you approach an attorney or advocate (trust account) to assist you with the legal process. He or she would then contact the other parent explaining the reasons for the relocation and request the necessary consent. If the parent remaining in South Africa does still not agree to the passport application and/or to the relocation to Venice, Italy, then the attorney or advocate will proceed to take the matter to court. The legal route can be expensive. However, it is necessary to make the relocation of the minor child possible. You may also attend to the legal process yourself.

Getting legal assistance or help with your relocation application to Venice, Italy

If you require legal assistance or representation with relocating to Venice, Italy due to the other parent not cooperating or providing consent, then feel free to contact us for assistance. The Firm Advocate, Muhammad Abduroaf, deals with these types of matters.

Posted on 11 February 2025 by Telelaw

Relocation with my minor child to Italy, Venice (Consent and Refusal) – Advocate Muhammad Abduroaf

Relocation of your minor child to Venice, Italy

What about Passport Consent to travel or relocate to Venice, Italy?

What are the steps to follow when I want to relocate to Venice, Italy with my minor child? There is there another parent.

To simplify the process for relocation, the first step would be to receive the other parent’s consent in principle for the relocation and that he or she will co-operate in this regard. Once that has been resolved, the parent relocating would need to make the appointment for the minor child’s passport application as well as the application for the relevant VISA. Each country has different requirements; however, seeing that it is a relocation, you need to apply for the correct VISA. For that, you need the Passport.
Once the visa and travel arrangements have been finalised, the parent remaining behind will sign a parental consent letter for the international travel. That letter can be found on the Department of Home Affairs website. Basically, the parent remaining behind would state that he or she gives consent for the minor child to leave the Republic of South Africa and travel and/or relocate to Venice, Italy.

What can I do if the other parent does not want to consent to the minor child’s relocation to Venice, Italy?

If the parent remaining in South Africa does not want to consent to the minor child’s passport application and/or his or her relocation to Venice, Italy, then you would need to approach the Court. The Court, as upper guardian of the minor child, may order that the parent’s consent for the passport application and relocation be dispensed with. What this entails is submitting Court documents explaining why you want to relocate to Venice, Italy. The other parent would also have an opportunity to give reasons why he or she objects.
At the end of the process, the Court would determine what is in the minor child’s best interests. If it is in the minor child’s best interests to relocate to Venice, Italy, the Court would make it possible despite the issue of consent or refusal.

What is the first step I should take if the other parent does not want to consent to the minor child’s passport application and/or relocation to Venice, Italy?

Getting legal assistance or help with your relocation application to Venice, Italy

What are my rights as a Muslim Spouse in South Africa with regard to property and children? I want to divorce my spouse. Does South African Law protect my rights to property and children?
Muslim Marriages concluded in the traditional sense are not the same legally as a marriage concluded in terms of South African law. For example, in terms of the Marriage Act 25 of 1961. There have been cases dealing with this problem, a prominent one being Women’s Legal Centre Trust v President of the Republic of South Africa and Others (CCT 24/21) [2022] ZACC 23; 2022 (5) SA 323 (CC); 2023 (1) BCLR 80 (CC) (28 June 2022). However, despite a person being married in terms of Muslim Rites, you still have the protection of the South African laws. This article deals with your rights regarding property and minor children.
What are my property Rights?
Parties married in terms of Muslim Rites are deemed to be married out of Community of Property without the accrual regime. Basically, what this means is that each party owns his or her own property during and after the marriage. There will be no automatic sharing of assets after the marriage unless there is another legal basis, therefore.
Parental Rights (Child Custody/Guardianship)
There is no distinction between parents who were married in terms of Muslim Rites or South African Civil law when it comes to parental rights. However, if there is a dispute, the parents of a Muslim marriage will have to approach the Court after they divorce regarding custody and child maintenance. In a civil marriage, the divorce could deal with those issues.
How do I approach the Court to enforce my parental rights for contact with my child?
If you are a parent to a child, you may approach the Children’s Court or the High Court for assistance regarding your rights to your child. It does not matter that you were married in terms of Muslim Rites.
How do I approach the Court to claim child maintenance?
You may approach the Maintenance Court in the area where you work or reside to open a case for child maintenance. That would apply whether or not you are married in terms of Muslim Rites or not.

Posted on 11 February 2025 by Telelaw

Best Divorce Lawyer Advice – Focus on your case – not the emotions involved

Once upon a time, an individual and their spouse were deeply engaged in a profound romantic relationship, characterized by love and mutual respect. This connection led to the pivotal decision to enter into marriage and embark on a shared life journey. Following their union, they may have welcomed children into their family and created a multitude of cherished memories—celebrations, milestones, and everyday moments that strengthened their bond. However, over time, a significant turning point emerged, one that fundamentally altered the trajectory of their relationship. Disagreements began to surface, leading to a gradual emotional detachment between the partners. Despite their best efforts to restore the affection they once felt for each other, these attempts proved unsuccessful, ultimately culminating in the contemplation of divorce.

Best Strategies for Navigating Divorce for Optimal Outcomes

It is not uncommon to witness clients struggling with the emotional ramifications of divorce as they seek assistance in addressing various legal matters. When clients approach us, they often face challenges that extend beyond emotional distress, including the complexities associated with child custody, division of assets, and personal maintenance. Some clients may operate under the misconception that criticizing their partner or airing grievances will enhance their chances of obtaining a more favorable outcome. However, it is crucial to understand that while these emotions are valid and significant, they do not directly impact the objective issues at hand concerning children, property, and financial support.

Best Legal Strategy to employ in Divorces

As legal professionals, our primary goal is to assist clients in navigating their emotional challenges effectively, allowing us to redirect our focus toward the substantive issues that require resolution. This pivotal transition is essential; it serves as a breakthrough moment that enables both the client and their attorney to approach the case with clarity and a constructive mindset. While we remain empathetic to our clients’ emotional experiences, it becomes evident that managing these emotions better facilitates a more effective and favorable resolution to their legal matters.

Focusing on Relevant Legal Issues

Once we have successfully guided clients beyond the emotional turmoil associated with divorce, a concerted focus can be established on the critical legal issues that need to be addressed. The primary objectives during this phase encompass securing an equitable settlement or achieving a favorable judgment through trial proceedings. It is imperative to recognize that triumph in these legal matters rests on the foundation of factual evidence rather than emotional arguments, leading to improved outcomes for the client. For instance, when determining child support, if the monthly cost of raising a child is established at R 10,000, the court adheres to this figure, irrespective of any negative behavior exhibited by the other parent—such as infidelity or other actions that may have contributed to the marital breakdown. These considerations, while emotionally charged, do not influence the financial outcome in a legal context.

Best way to proceed with your divorce case

Therefore, it is essential for parents involved in divorce proceedings to present comprehensive and accurate evidence that substantiates the actual costs associated with the care of their children. This encompasses not only basic necessities but also additional financial obligations that may arise. Furthermore, it is crucial to clearly outline the financial responsibilities that both parents should assume in relation to these costs. This process emphasizes the necessity of grounding discussions in factual data, thereby highlighting that the legal proceedings should focus on practical issues rather than the emotional narratives surrounding the separation. Such an approach can significantly enhance the likelihood of a favorable resolution that meets the needs of all parties involved. If you wish to consult with us, complete the form below:

Child Custody, Contact rights and more – Children’s Act 38 of 2005

This article gives a short introduction to the Children’s Act.

The Children’s Act 38 of 2005 was a very welcomed piece of legislation. It assists us in answering many issues relating to Family Law. For example. What are the rights of unmarried fathers? Do I as a father of a child born out of wedlock have rights? Do I as a father of a child born in terms of a religious marriage have rights?

Parents who are involved in disputes regarding their children should educate themselves on the provisions of the Children’s Act.

Challenges for unmarried fathers

In our view, unmarried fathers almost always experienced difficulties regarding access to their children if they were separated from their mother. What is even worse, is if a couple was married in terms of religion or custom, and not civilly (e.g. in Court), and the parties separated, where the unmarried father’s position would be the same as that of an unmarried father who was never married to the mother religiously or customary.

Rights of Unmarried Fathers in South Africa

However, if a party was married civilly and divorced, the Divorce Court in the past would deal with the issue of care and contact in relation to the minor children. The usual phrase used was that the mother would have custody over the child, with the father having rights of reasonable access. The position has however improved with the inception of the Children’s Act 38 of 2005 for both divorced and unmarried fathers. As outlined below, an unmarried father would have rights over a child, akin to that of a married father, as long as certain conditions are met.

The persistent problem for unmarried parents

However, in our view, based on the custody and contact matters we dealt with since the inception of the Act, mothers are still seen as primary caregivers in practice, and if the mother does not want the father to have contact or care with the child or a say in his or her life, the father would still have to follow the procedures in the Act to give effect to his rights. Sometimes, approaching the Court is the only solution. However, on the whole, the Children’s Act 38 of 2005, is a step in the proper direction for unmarried fathers, and children born out of wedlock. We hope it would improve even more.

The coming into effect of the Children’s Act 38 (Act 38 of 2005)

All sections of the Children’s Act 38 (Act 38 of 2005) came into effect on 1 April 2010. The Children’s Act 38 of 2005 brought many changes regarding the responsibilities and rights of parents and children and also deals with other aspects regarding children, e.g. contraceptives and abortion, etc. Interesting to note are the following sections listed below, there are however others depending on your issues.

Parental responsibilities and rights

Section 18 of the children’s act 38 of 38 2005 states the following: (1) A person may have either full or specific parental responsibilities or rights in respect of a child. (2) The parental responsibilities and rights that a person may have in respect of a Child, include the responsibility and the right- (a) To care for the child; (b) To maintain contact with the child; (c) To act as guardian of the child; and (d) To contribute to the maintenance of the child. (3) Subject to subsections (4) and (5), a parent or other person who acts as guardian of a child must (a) Administer and safeguard the child’s property and property interests; (b) Assist or represent the child in administrative, contractual and other legal Matters; or (c) Give or refuse any consent required by law in respect of the child, including- (I) consent to the child marriage (ii) Consent to the child adoption; (iii) Consent to the child departure or removal from the Republic; (iv) Consent to the child application for a passport; and (v) Consent to the alienation or encumbrance of any immovable property of the child. (4) Whenever more than one person has guardianship of a child, each one of them is competent, subject to subsection (5), any other law or any order of a competent court to the contrary, to exercise independently and without the consent of the other any right or responsibility arising from such guardianship. (5) Unless a competent court orders otherwise, the consent of all the persons that have guardianship of a child is necessary in respect of matters set out in subsection (3)(c). We shall now deal with what the Children’s Act of 2005 says the meaning of care and contact are, which are not the traditional words used in the past. In the past, the courts and the legal fraternity used the terms custody and access. This was reflected in divorce papers. Now legal documents use the terms care and contact although some might disagree, it is respectfully submitted that custody is an aspect of care and the Children’s act provides broader responsibilities and rights in this regard.

Meaning of Care in the Children’s Act

The Children’s Act 38 of 2005 defines care as follows: Care in relation to a child, includes, where appropriate- (a) Within available means, providing the child with- (i) a suitable place to live; (ii) Living conditions that are conducive to the child’s health well-being and development; and (iii) The necessary financial support; (b) Safeguarding and promoting the well-being of the child; (c) protecting the child from maltreatment, abuse, neglect, degradation, discrimination, exploitation and any other physical, emotional or moral harm or hazards; (d) respecting, protecting, promoting and securing the fulfilment of, and guarding against any infringement of, the child rights set out in the Bill of Rights and the principles set out in Chapter 2 of this Act; (e) guiding, directing and securing the child education and upbringing, including religious and cultural education and upbringing, in a manner appropriate to the child age, maturity and stage of development; guiding, advising and assisting the child in decisions to be taken by the child in a manner appropriate to the child age, maturity and stage of development; (g) Guiding the behaviour of the child in a humane manner; (h) Maintaining a sound relationship with the child; (I) accommodating any special needs that the child may have; and (j) Generally, ensuring that the best interests of the child is the paramount Concern in all matters affecting the child;

Meaning of Contact in the Children’s Act

According to the Children’s Act 38 of 2005, contact means the following: Contact in relation to a child, means- (a) Maintaining a personal relationship with the child; and (b) If the child lives with someone else- (I) communication on a regular basis with the child in person, including- (AA) visiting the child; or (Bb) being visited by the child; or (ii) Communication on a regular basis with the child in any other manner, Including- (AA) through the post; or (Bb) by telephone or any other form of electronic communication; It is my view that the Children’s Act 38 of 2005 attempts to place greater value to contact between parent and child. There are many sections in the Children’s Act 38 of 2005 that deals with parental responsibilities and rights of parents and children. Get hold of the Act and see how it applies to you. If you are an unmarried father and your rights are being limited by the mother of the child, I advise you to contact a family legal practitioner and discuss your rights with him or her. And to all unmarried fathers out there, fight for your rights as a father, this would be in the child’s best interest.

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Relocation with my minor child to Italy, Venice (Consent and Refusal) – Advocate Muhammad Abduroaf

Relocation of your minor child to Venice, Italy

What about Passport Consent to travel or relocate to Venice, Italy?

What are the steps to follow when I want to relocate to Venice, Italy with my minor child? There is there another parent.

What can I do if the other parent does not want to consent to the minor child’s relocation to Venice, Italy?

What is the first step I should take if the other parent does not want to consent to the minor child’s passport application and/or relocation to Venice, Italy?

Getting legal assistance or help with your relocation application to Venice, Italy

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