41 Relocation with my minor child to Turkey, Istanbul (Consent and Refusal) – Advocate Muhammad Abduroaf The world is becoming a much smaller place, and technology plays a huge role. People are moving across the world for employment, love and happiness, something that was not the norm a few decades ago. There is no reason why you should remain in South Africa if you can find a better life for yourself and your family overseas. Moving overseas may provide you with the quality of life you want or the possibility of experiencing things you always wanted. The same applies to your child or children relocating with you. Relocation of your minor child to Istanbul, Turkey If you are single and do not have any minor children, then moving around the world would not be too complicated. All you need to do is ensure that you have the necessary travel documentation and travel ticket (and spending money), and off you go. However, if you want to travel with your minor children (for example, ages nine or ten) or relocate to another country, things may not be that simple. Firstly, if there is another parent, and he or she has parental responsibilities and rights, then his or her consent is required. For example, let us say you live in Port Elizabeth or Sasolburg, South Africa, and you want to relocate to Istanbul, Turkey, you would require the other parent’s consent to leave South Africa with your minor child. This can cause challenges, especially if the staying parent (in South Africa) does not agree to the relocation. What about Passport Consent to travel or relocate to Istanbul, Turkey? The same applies when it comes to your minor child applying for a South African passport to relocate to Turkey, or any country. Both parents who have parental responsibilities and rights of guardianship will have to consent to the minor child’s passport application as well. In this regard, both parents have to be at the Department of Home Affairs (or the relevant bank that also assists with passport application) when making the Application with the minor child. This can be challenging if you have a disinterested parent who does not want to cooperate with the passport application. As you will see later, legal action would need to be taken. What are the steps to follow when I want to relocate to Istanbul, Turkey with my minor child? There is there another parent. To simplify the process for relocation, the first step would be to receive the other parent’s consent in principle for the relocation and that he or she will co-operate in this regard. Once that has been resolved, the parent relocating would need to make the appointment for the minor child’s passport application as well as the application for the relevant VISA. Each country has different requirements; however, seeing that it is a relocation, you need to apply for the correct VISA. For that, you need the Passport. Once the visa and travel arrangements have been finalised, the parent remaining behind will sign a parental consent letter for the international travel. That letter can be found on the Department of Home Affairs website. Basically, the parent remaining behind would state that he or she gives consent for the minor child to leave the Republic of South Africa and travel and/or relocate to Istanbul, Turkey. What can I do if the other parent does not want to consent to the minor child’s relocation to Istanbul, Turkey? If the parent remaining in South Africa does not want to consent to the minor child’s passport application and/or his or her relocation to Istanbul, Turkey, then you would need to approach the Court. The Court, as upper guardian of the minor child, may order that the parent’s consent for the passport application and relocation be dispensed with. What this entails is submitting Court documents explaining why you want to relocate to Istanbul, Turkey. The other parent would also have an opportunity to give reasons why he or she objects. At the end of the process, the Court would determine what is in the minor child’s best interests. If it is in the minor child’s best interests to relocate to Istanbul, Turkey, the Court would make it possible despite the issue of consent or refusal. What is the first step I should take if the other parent does not want to consent to the minor child’s passport application and/or relocation to Istanbul, Turkey? If the other parent does not want to consent to the passport application and/or the relocation of the minor child to Istanbul, Turkey – in that case, we suggest you approach an attorney or advocate (trust account) to assist you with the legal process. He or she would then contact the other parent explaining the reasons for the relocation and request the necessary consent. If the parent remaining in South Africa does still not agree to the passport application and/or to the relocation to Istanbul, Turkey, then the attorney or advocate will proceed to take the matter to court. The legal route can be expensive. However, it is necessary to make the relocation of the minor child possible. You may also attend to the legal process yourself. Getting legal assistance or help with your relocation application to Istanbul, Turkey If you require legal assistance or representation with relocating to Istanbul, Turkey due to the other parent not cooperating or providing consent, then feel free to contact us for assistance. The Firm Advocate, Muhammad Abduroaf, deals with these types of matters.

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41 Relocation with my minor child to Turkey, Istanbul (Consent and Refusal) – Advocate Muhammad Abduroaf
The world is becoming a much smaller place, and technology plays a huge role. People are moving across the world for employment, love and happiness, something that was not the norm a few decades ago. There is no reason why you should remain in South Africa if you can find a better life for yourself and your family overseas. Moving overseas may provide you with the quality of life you want or the possibility of experiencing things you always wanted. The same applies to your child or children relocating with you.
Relocation of your minor child to Istanbul, Turkey
If you are single and do not have any minor children, then moving around the world would not be too complicated. All you need to do is ensure that you have the necessary travel documentation and travel ticket (and spending money), and off you go. However, if you want to travel with your minor children (for example, ages nine or ten) or relocate to another country, things may not be that simple. Firstly, if there is another parent, and he or she has parental responsibilities and rights, then his or her consent is required. For example, let us say you live in Port Elizabeth or Sasolburg, South Africa, and you want to relocate to Istanbul, Turkey, you would require the other parent’s consent to leave South Africa with your minor child. This can cause challenges, especially if the staying parent (in South Africa) does not agree to the relocation.
What about Passport Consent to travel or relocate to Istanbul, Turkey?
The same applies when it comes to your minor child applying for a South African passport to relocate to Turkey, or any country. Both parents who have parental responsibilities and rights of guardianship will have to consent to the minor child’s passport application as well. In this regard, both parents have to be at the Department of Home Affairs (or the relevant bank that also assists with passport application) when making the Application with the minor child. This can be challenging if you have a disinterested parent who does not want to cooperate with the passport application. As you will see later, legal action would need to be taken.
What are the steps to follow when I want to relocate to Istanbul, Turkey with my minor child? There is there another parent.
To simplify the process for relocation, the first step would be to receive the other parent’s consent in principle for the relocation and that he or she will co-operate in this regard. Once that has been resolved, the parent relocating would need to make the appointment for the minor child’s passport application as well as the application for the relevant VISA. Each country has different requirements; however, seeing that it is a relocation, you need to apply for the correct VISA. For that, you need the Passport.
Once the visa and travel arrangements have been finalised, the parent remaining behind will sign a parental consent letter for the international travel. That letter can be found on the Department of Home Affairs website. Basically, the parent remaining behind would state that he or she gives consent for the minor child to leave the Republic of South Africa and travel and/or relocate to Istanbul, Turkey.
What can I do if the other parent does not want to consent to the minor child’s relocation to Istanbul, Turkey?
If the parent remaining in South Africa does not want to consent to the minor child’s passport application and/or his or her relocation to Istanbul, Turkey, then you would need to approach the Court. The Court, as upper guardian of the minor child, may order that the parent’s consent for the passport application and relocation be dispensed with. What this entails is submitting Court documents explaining why you want to relocate to Istanbul, Turkey. The other parent would also have an opportunity to give reasons why he or she objects.
At the end of the process, the Court would determine what is in the minor child’s best interests. If it is in the minor child’s best interests to relocate to Istanbul, Turkey, the Court would make it possible despite the issue of consent or refusal.
What is the first step I should take if the other parent does not want to consent to the minor child’s passport application and/or relocation to Istanbul, Turkey?
If the other parent does not want to consent to the passport application and/or the relocation of the minor child to Istanbul, Turkey – in that case, we suggest you approach an attorney or advocate (trust account) to assist you with the legal process. He or she would then contact the other parent explaining the reasons for the relocation and request the necessary consent. If the parent remaining in South Africa does still not agree to the passport application and/or to the relocation to Istanbul, Turkey, then the attorney or advocate will proceed to take the matter to court. The legal route can be expensive. However, it is necessary to make the relocation of the minor child possible. You may also attend to the legal process yourself.
Getting legal assistance or help with your relocation application to Istanbul, Turkey
If you require legal assistance or representation with relocating to Istanbul, Turkey due to the other parent not cooperating or providing consent, then feel free to contact us for assistance. The Firm Advocate, Muhammad Abduroaf, deals with these types of matters.

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Top tips from a Senior Family Law Advocate on how to deal with your Child Custody matter in the Vanderbijlpark Children’s Court

 

Family law legal matters can be very stressful. This is so whether you live in Vanderbijlpark or any other city in South Africa. Especially so if you have no idea how the legal processes work. It is one thing to know that you are entitled to child support, but it is a totally different matter to know the law and procedure on how to claim child support. Luckily in child maintenance matters, the maintenance court is there to assist you in completing the application form. However, many times that is not enough. Especially so if the other parent has a lawyer and knows how to present the case for his or her client.

This article, however, deals with some top tips in care and contact or custody matters in the Children’s Court in Vanderbijlpark. It would explain the processes involved and advise on how to be best prepared for your matter. This advice is applicable whether you live in Vanderbijlpark or any other city in South Africa.

What to do before visiting the Vanderbijlpark Children’s Court

Before you approach the Children’s Court in Vanderbijlpark, first try to resolve the issues with the other parent. Therefore, if you want more contact with your child and the other parent is refusing, try to resolve the matter first with that parent. If that does not work, try mediation. The mediator can be anyone, from a trusted mutual friend, priest, or other religious leaders, or a professional like an attorney, psychologist, or the office of the Family Advocate. Vanderbijlpark has many professionals that can assist you in this regard. If resolving the matter by yourselves is not possible, or mediation fails, then we suggest you approach the Vanderbijlpark Children’s Court for assistance.

TIP: Focus on getting someone neutral to assist in mediating your matter. Organisations like FAMSA and FAMAC can be of assistance. Google them.

Approaching the Vanderbijlpark Children’s Court

The Vanderbijlpark Children’s Court should be approached if it is the closest Children’s Court to you. You need to verify with the Vanderbijlpark Children’s Court that you fall under their area of jurisdiction. If not, they would direct you to which Children’s Court is applicable to you.

Once you arrive at the Vanderbijlpark Children’s Court, they will provide you with a form headed “Bringing Matter to Court in Terms of Section 53 Children’s Act, 2005 (Act no. 38 of 2005) Regulation Relating to Children’s Court and International Child Abduction, 2008 [Regulation 6]. This form is also called Form 2.

In this form, you will provide all your particulars and that of the child or children and the other parent. The sections in the form are as follows:

  • PART A: PARTICULARS OF CHILD(REN)
  • PART B: PARTICULARS OF *CHILD WHO IS AFFECTED BY OR INVOLVED IN THE MATTER/PERSON *ACTING IN THE INTEREST OF THE CHILD/*ON BEHALF OF THE CHILD WHO CANNOT ACT IN HIS/HER OWN NAME/ *MEMBER OF A GROUP OF CLASS OF CHILDREN/*IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST (SECTION 53(2)
  • PART C: PARTICULARS OF PERSONS HAVING AN INTEREST IN THE MATTER
  • PART D: PARTICULARS OF MATTER

In part D, the following is stated which you need to provide in the form:

  • Nature of matter brought to Court: (Please give full details of the matter e.g., registration/amendment of parenting plans, removal of child to safe care, children in need of care and protection, placement in youth care centers, adoption etc.
  • Documents: Are there any documents relating to the matter? (If so please attach)

Once you have completed the form and attached the relevant documents to it, you must take it to a commissioner of Oaths to have it commissioned. It does not have to be in Vanderbijlpark.

TIP: Draft a separate affidavit explaining your case. Outline some background information and reasons why the Court should give you what you request. Attach it to Form 2.

Processing your Application at the Vanderbijlpark Children’s Court

Once you complete the Form A and submit it to the Clerk of the Vanderbijlpark Children’s Court, they will process it and allocate it a case number or reference number. The Clerk of the Court would then allocate a date to the matter and advise the parties accordingly when the court date is. Please note that some courts follow a different process for processing the application and informing the parties of the court date. Please enquire from the Court when making the application what process they follow.

TIP: Obtain the contact details of the Court for you to contact them to obtain the Court date or other information. Ask for their contact number and email address.

Appearing in the Vanderbijlpark Children’s Court

When notified of the Court date, both you and the other parent should attend. If you are making use of a lawyer (Advocate or Attorney), inform them timeously of the date. Depending on the Court, you may first see the Clerk or go directly to the Magistrate. The Children’s Court would do its best to try to resolve the matter. If the parents cannot come to an agreement, the Children’s Court may postpone the matter for either of the following:

  • Get a social worker involved in the matter;
  • Appoint a legal representative for the minor child;
  • Implement interim care and contact arrangements;
  • Having the parties attempt to agree on a parenting plan;
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In serious matters, the Court may remove the minor child from both parents and place the child in foster care. The powers of the Children’s Court are extensive. It will, however, focus on what is in the child’s best interests.

TIP: Be as vocal as possible. Do not expect the Court to be understanding of your case or be on your side. It is your duty to explain your case and provide the Court with all the relevant information they require for them to make a fair decision.

Finalising the matter in the Vanderbijlpark Children’s Court

Once the Vanderbijlpark Children’s Court has enough information to make a final decision, it will do so. Depending on the facts of the matter, that could either be making a Parenting Plan, an Order of the Court or a final care and contact Order. The Court may even make further interim orders, where the parties are to return to Court after a few months, or a year later.

TIP: Do not agree to something just because the social worker, a lawyer, or the Court suggest it. You need to be happy with what is decided.

The above Vanderbijlpark Children’s Court Application tips should apply to the following provinces and cities:

Eastern Cape:

Alice, Butterworth, East London, Graaff-Reinet, Grahamstown, King William’s Town, Mthatha

Port Elizabeth, Queenstown, Uitenhage, Zwelitsha

Free State:

Bethlehem. Bloemfontein, Jagersfontein, Kroonstad, Odendaalsrus, Parys, Phuthaditjhaba, Sasolburg, Virginia, Welkom

Gauteng:

Benoni, Boksburg, Brakpan, Carletonville, Germiston, Johannesburg, Krugersdorp, Pretoria, Randburg, Randfontein, Roodepoort, Soweto, Springs, Vanderbijlpark, Vereeniging

KwaZulu-Natal:

Durban, Empangeni, Ladysmith, Newcastle, Pietermaritzburg, Pinetown, Ulundi, Umlazi

Limpopo:

Giyani, Lebowakgomo, Musina, Phalaborwa, Polokwane, Seshego, Sibasa, Thabazimbi

Mpumalanga:

Emalahleni, Nelspruit, Secunda, North West, Klerksdorp, Mahikeng, Mmabatho, Potchefstroom, Rustenburg, Northern Cape, Kimberley, Kuruman, Port Nolloth

Western Cape:

Bellville, Vanderbijlpark, Constantia, George, Hopefield, Oudtshoorn, Paarl, Simon’s Town, Stellenbosch, Swellendam, Worcester

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Advocate of the High Court of South Africa – Cape Town

Not many people know about the advocates’ profession. They hear of them, see them on television and read about them in newspapers. But what are they, and what do they do? To answer some of these questions, we got hold of Advocate Muhammad Abduroaf a practicing advocate from Cape Town, Western Cape, to assist us in unpacking this much misunderstood profession.

Advocate Muhammad Abduroaf – Cape Town

Advocate Muhammad Abduroaf is an admitted advocate of the High Court of South Africa. He holds chambers in the Pinnacle Building, 33 Burg Street, Cape Town, South Africa. He has been practising as an advocate for much over a decade and holds a wealth of experience on the ins and outs of the profession. Advocate Abduroaf has an LL.B and LL.M (Master of Laws) Degree on his shoulders. To learn more about the life of an advocate, please read on.

Advocates of the High Court of South Africa

Advocates play a very important role in society. They advise and represent their clients in complicated legal issues on an array of matters. Although advocates usually appear in the Higher Courts (High Court, Supreme Court of Appeal and Constitutional Court etc.), they do on occasion appear in the magistrates or lower courts and other forums. In order be become an advocate, you are required to have the necessary academic training in the form of an LL. B degree (Bachelor of Laws). This degree usually takes no less than 4 (four) years to complete at an accredited South African university. Furthermore, only a judge in the High Court can admit you as an Advocate after filing the necessary application. Many advocates then go on to form part of a society of advocates. If you wish to become and advocate, you would need to file your application at the High Court in the area where you reside, attach to it the necessary documents, and set the matter down for hearing when the High Court hears such applications. Admissions of attorneys, advocates, notaries and conveyancers usually take place on the first Friday of each month in the High Court. The Judges who preside over such applications are usually the Judge President and a less senior judge. Once you are admitted as an advocate of the High Court of South Africa, your name would be added to the roll of advocates.

How do advocates of the High Court get work?

Advocates receive their work from attorneys. In other words, a person from the public cannot directly instruct an advocate to do work for him or her. There are however certain exceptions. However, from August 2018, advocates with Trust Accounts may take on an instruction from a member of the public. An attorney’s intervention would therefore not be required. Under the latter scenario, the client would act as the attorney, do all the work the attorney would usually do, and then instruct the advocate to do what she does best. Sticking to the current legal position, the role of an advocate is closely linked to that of an attorney. The Attorney would meet with, and initially consult with the client, take instructions, and request a deposit of some sort. The deposit would be paid into the attorneys Trust Account. Should the matter require an advocate, the attorney would prepare a brief (or case file), with all relevant information in it and forward it to the advocate. The advocate would then act on the brief or instruction of the attorney and bill the attorney accordingly for services rendered in the case. If for instance the attorney did not request a deposit from the client beforehand, and nonetheless instructed the advocate; the attorney is still obliged to pay the advocate her fee. That would be a risk the attorney is taking.

What type of work does advocates do for attorneys or clients?

Advocates would usually do work that the attorney’s practice does not cater for. An attorney is usually a general legal practitioner, who runs a law office. This would entail meeting with clients on a regular basis, taking calls, writing letters, filing documents at court etc. As seen above, attorneys also need to prepare briefs for advocates and pay them. Therefore, an attorney can be seen as a case manager when it comes to dealing with an advocate, and cases in general. Therefore, you would never see an advocate writing a letter of demand.

Court work in the Magistrates and High Courts

An Advocate would be briefed to draft pleadings (court documents) as well as legal opinions. This type of work is very focused and requires a few hours at a time to be set aside for it. Advocates then also need to prepare for trials. In this regard, the case needs to be studies, strategies formulated, and possible questions needs to be drawn up. It takes a lot of time to work out what are good questions to be asked in cross examination of witnesses. The right question, can be the deciding factor in winning or losing a case. Therefore, an advocates office cannot be burdened with daily administrative tasks which attorneys best do. Arguments in legal cases in the Higher Court or Magistrates Court At the end of a court case, lawyers need to provide arguments to court as to why their case should succeed. Now let’s say there were five witnesses that were called to provide evidence in a divorce case. Each of them provided evidence on the witness stand for about a day. At the end of evidence presented, and the close of each party’s case, the advocate needs to go back to his chambers to prepare closing arguments. She needs to focus and apply her mind in finding the most convincing arguments based on the evidence presented in order to succeed in her case. She will bear in mind that there is an advocate who may try to discredit her arguments should they be weak or incorrect. In motion or application procedures, evidence is provided in affidavit form. Therefore, the parties do not go on the witness stand and say what happened. They do so in an affidavit and submit it to Court. A typical case where motion procedure is appropriate would be Child Custody matters. Once all the parties submitted their affidavits to court, the parties’ legal representatives would file, what they term, heads of argument.

Legal Opinions on Legal Matters or Court Cases

What advocates are often asked to do is to draft opinions on legal matters. Opinions are very useful if you would like to know if you have a winning case beforehand, or what the law says about your specific situation. A lot of time gets spent on drafting an opinion. This is so as the nature of the legal advice required in the opinion is mostly complicated. It is always advisable to obtain an opinion before litigating or taking a matter to court. Spending some money on a well drafted opinion can save you a lot in the future. This is especially so if you do not have a solid case at the outset. Therefore, should you lose your case, you would have had to pay your lawyers as well as the lawyers for the other side. This could all have been avoided if an opinion on the merits of success in your matter was provided.

What do advocates charge attorneys or clients for their services?

An advocate has to charge a reasonable fee for her services. However, what is reasonable depends on the facts of each case. An advocate with years of experience, or an expert on a specific aspect of law, would obviously charge much more than someone who has limited experience in a specific branch of law. It could also be that the new Advocate on the block may even take much more time to learn the law and figure things out. But in general, depending on your years of experience as an advocate, and the nature of the service provided; would determine the fees charged. We trust above brief summary of what an advocate is and what she does, provided by Advocate Muhammad Abduroaf was useful. Visit this website again soon for more interesting articles on the legal profession and family law. We are conveniently situated at The Pinnacle, corner of Strand and Burg Street in the CBD, Cape Town, South Africa. Make use of our online appointment system which is efficient and stress free. Call our offices for an online appointment today.
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